Ban illegal immigrants from renting apartments?

[Barnabas]

The birth of Texas as an independent nation can best be summerized as the result of Mexico declaring slavery illegal.[1] Mexico abhorred slavery as it was practiced in the United States [2] The seeds of Texas independence were planted the moment Mexico made its first attempts to enforce its rule of law in the territory regarding the abolishment of legal slavery. - - Mexican attempts to enforce anti-slavery laws ran into violent and extreme opposition from the mostly white, slave-owning American settlers, not all of whom were even legally in the country. - - To the rghteous American settler's the law declaring slavery illegal was -theft of legally purchased propery, their slaves, by a dictatorial government bent on driving them out. - - This was partly true, for prior to the decision, Mexico had decided the American settlers could not be trusted as they refused to obey Mexican laws, learn Spanish, or become Catholic as required of them when they were granted permission to settle in the Territory. Even more gaulling to Mexico was the rapidly growing number of illegal American immigrants staking claims on land in East Texas based solely on the belief that the United States was going to buy it soon. - - Mexico realized just how dependent the settlers were on slave labor, and the decree and active enforcement of anti-slavery laws was designed to hinder their plans to separate from Mexico. - - The inability of the national Mexican Government to enforce anti-slavery laws was all that was needed to fan the flames of rebellion among the settlers, and in a matter of few years after the passage of the anti-slavery laws the Republic of Texas, a nation's whose driving force was the right to own slaves, ruled by and for the benefit of free white settlers, was born. [3]

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Sounds like a good way to damage the rental property market - take away a bunch of potential renters and watch demand drop.

The plus side is that you have a bunch of homeless IAs roaming the streets.

[SlowwHand]

No, you have full trucks taking them back.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
No, you have full trucks taking them back.

How's that been working so far?

[SlowwHand]

As well as the ones bringing them in. At least they don't get abandoned in the back of a truck in the hot emptiness to die, on the way back.

[Odin]

Yes. Why should we give a person an apartment if that person isn't supposed to be in the damn country in the first place? Want to move to the US? Wait your turn.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Odin
Yes. Why should we give a person an apartment if that person isn't supposed to be in the damn country in the first place? Want to move to the US? Wait your turn.

You aren't giving anyone anything.

This is a business transaction between two individuals. It has nothing to do with you.

And IIRC, immigration law is under the same section of US civil law that covers minor traffic violations. I love all this talk about how these immigrants are "illegal". Do any of you guys ever speed? We should deport you.

[Addled Platypus]

YES YES YES

not until they register as migrant workers

there is a neat word called : PRIVELAGE

its not a right

it must be earned

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Addled Platypus
there is a neat word called : PRIVELAGE

Actually, there is no such word.

[Kuciwalker]

[Berzerker]

Citizenship

fascism, brownshirts, a nation of snitches with literally millions of laws to be enforced selectively and ultimately based on politics or class or the whims of a bureaucrat...

If someone is in the country, I am to assume they are here legally. The politicians have no business making me responsible for their inability or lack of desire to preserve the integrity of the borders.

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Sava
Texas was founded on illegal immigration... Americans illegally immigrating into a Mexican territory.

How ironic.

This is a poor comparison for the pro-illegal side to use. The American illegals went to Texas served as a basis for conquest, ultimately taking Texas from its former owner and transfering it to the home country of the illegals.

This argument provides a great parallel for the argument used by the most radical anti-illegal side, which is that the Mexican illegals have no desire to give up their alliegance to Mexico and that they ultimately desire to return the U.S. Southwest to Mexico.

[PLATO]

This seems like such a simple question.

"Illegal" immigrants. They are, by definition, in the act of committing a crime by their very presence here.

So, the question really is: "Ban people in the act of committing a crime from renting apartments?"

Seems like a simple answer to me...

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Now, that being said...

I believe that we should work with Mexico and other governments to establish a way to have legal immigration to fill the labor need. There are hundreds and hundreds of cases of illegal immigrants that would not be allowed in this country due to disease and criminal histories. The US has no obligation or responsibility to care for or police these people, but yet our resources are being taxed because so many people believe that illegal immigration is okay because people are "just persuing a better life". Well, Fine. Come to this country...but do it legally. If we wish to take control of this situation and get our boarders under control then we need to welcome legal immigrants, make it hard as hell on illegal immigrants, and work with other nations to develop a reasonable immigration policy that fills our needs and protects our boarders.

[Kuciwalker]

This seems like such a simple question.

"Illegal" immigrants. They are, by definition, in the act of committing a crime by their very presence here.

So, the question really is: "Ban people in the act of committing a crime from renting apartments?"

Seems like a simple answer to me...

Only if you're simple-minded and are happy to stop thinking about your decision at that point.

[Kuciwalker]

btw, the question doesn't reduce to that, because you're only trying to ban some people in the act of committing a crime from renting apartments.