Piracy

[mactbone]

Re: whats the difference

Originally posted by lord of the mark
between pirating a song, game or movie and

Tresspassing on someones property when theyre not using it? Sneaking into an uncrowded movie theater? In those instances, nothing tangible has been taken, and no one has been deprived of the use of anything. All that the movie theater owner loses when you sneak in is "potential" revenue. It may well be that you wouldnt have seen it at all if you had to pay for it, so hes not lost even that. It may be that after seeing it for 5 minutes free, and deciding you like it, you will go out and pay for it, or will at least tell your friends how good it is, so its like advertising.

Trespassing is a crime in and of itself.

[Sava]

it ain't a crime if you don't get caught

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Sava
it ain't a crime if you don't get caught

Amen!! With one qualifier....'and you don't feel guilty doing it'

[joncha]

Originally posted by b etor


joncha is MY friend

[MRT144]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


not everyone involved in a game, film, or music is an "artist". Thousands of techies, recording engineers, etc, all contributing to YOUR product.

poor them. i dont pity their career choice that is rife to be exploited.

[SlowwHand]

When you buy a blank music cd, RIAA has been paid.
They can whine, moan, and wring their hands all they want, but they're ****outofluck, though.

If you still want to spout the corporate line that it's theft, feel free. You're wrong and a sucker.

[Ming]

Originally posted by MRT144
poor them. i dont pity their career choice that is rife to be exploited.

While the current system does indeed suck... It's nice to see some people have no problem ripping off other people I bet if they were the ones being ripped off they would be the first to whine... but since they are the ones stealing, I guess it's OK in their minds

I guess it's just another example of this new generations selfishness... the whole we can screw others, but don't screw me

[SlowwHand]

Established recording artists are split on the issue.
Aspiring artists welcome the oppotunity of having their music introduced in p2p.

There's a lot more to it than what people think is fact.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Ming


I guess it's just another example of this new generations selfishness... the whole we can screw others, but don't screw me

Thats not strictly the ideology Ming. The idea is to screw and not leave yourself open to be screwed. It's not my fault if the RIAA can't follow the second part....

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Established recording artists are split on the issue.
Aspiring artists welcome the oppotunity of having their music introduced in p2p.

There's a lot more to it than what people think is fact.

then those aspiring artists are free to release their own music, arent they? If the publishers they work with wont accept that, let them find a new publisher, or self publish, or whatever?

I mean I dont get this "the artists dont agree with the RIAA" line. How does the RIAA force aspiring artists to their approach?

[SlowwHand]

The RIAA is paid off the sale of music cd's already.
They don't have a leg to stand on. Personally, I don't care if you believe me or not. I'd dig out the citations if it did matter to me.

[mactbone]

Actually, the RIAA sues on behalf of some companies that aren't affiliated with them. I can't recall the exact circumstances but it involved some small company like Jade Tree or Ace Fu.

[SlowwHand]

Here is one. I don't have the time nor the inclination to "prove it" to you in repetitive redundancy over and over.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/1008.html [cornell.edu]
"No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings."

[reds4ever]

Slow,

Don't try to justify the fact that you steal music and movies. Embrace it like I do!! Its so easy to do, you'd be a fool not to!!

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
The RIAA is paid off the sale of music cd's already.
They don't have a leg to stand on. Personally, I don't care if you believe me or not. I'd dig out the citations if it did matter to me.

which means folks buying CDRs for legit purposes are screwed cause of the pirates. Of course if people dont burn their pirate songs, then the RIAA doent get anything.