Sarkozy DonnÉ Gagnant

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Oerdin

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/cbo_outlays_percent_gdp.png

That link shows what really happened with the national budget from 1965-2005 (a 30 year period). Please notice Reagan's term was 1980-1988 which saw HUGE increases in government spending along with HUGE decreases in government tax revenue. Basically, it is just the same failed policies of borrow and spend Republicanism which has landed us in debt up to our ears.

*40 year period...

But do I read that right, that government spending went down under Carter? That is quite interesting.

[Dinner]

Carter over saw the post-Vietnam military slow down. That was the big spending cuts that Carter made. At the end of the day Carter cut government spending and Reagan spent like a drunken sailor on shore leave.

Never mind facts or reality. The Republicans needed a President who wasn't a complete dirt bag so they have attempted to ignore reality and deify Reagan kind of like how the Chinese Communists have attempted to Deify Mao. Ask real history professors about Reagan and he almost always comes in at the bottom 25% of American Presidents so Republicans have attempted to pump up Reagan's image by attributing everything which is good and smells like flowers to him while attempting to blame everything else on the evil Democrats. The problem is it's all bull****.

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"your own link pwns you", huh. That graph doesnt support your analysis at all, oerdin

Originally posted by OzzyKP
But do I read that right, that government spending went down under Carter? That is quite interesting.

...you don't. Check out the attachment in my post below this post. Note the green line going from the start of their terms to the end of their terms. Relative to GDP spending went up during the first term of Reagan, but fell down even below what was it's level in January 1981 during his second term.

It's important to note that the numbers are not absolute, but percentages of total GDP. Thus, boom years before depressions or recessions have a deceivingly low level if you think in terms of "who cut spending and who raised it".

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[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Barnabas
French people, are the beaches in Biarritz good or the water is cold?

The water in this part of France is quite cold, usually reaches 22-23C at most at the end of the summer.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
I don't get the protesters against Sarkozy.

Really - I mean - what is the effing point? You just fu*king had an election, and it is quite clear who fu*king won.

So what is the purpose of the wild demonstrations against the democratic process? One of the rules of democracy is that you accept the popular vote.

Oh, that wasn't that wild. Doesn't democracy feel better when it stays home ? You also have to consider the specifics of a demonstration, most of the time it's police provocation that stirs up ****. I don't know how things went on in Paris, but in Bordeaux they tried to block a rich commercial street and that's where the **** began. Most people in the crowds were pissed at the young throwing rocks and bottles though.

Personally, I don't like violence in demos, but sometimes the police is really just asking for trouble.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Catching tax-dodgers doesn't seem to really be a political question, and its not really amenable to solutions that can be presented before the public (or would be terribly controversial if presented before the public). It's something better left to the bureaucrats IMO.

What's the ****ing difference with the police then ?

Don't put your hand in the sand. He doesn't say anything about tax dodgers, because they're those he represents.

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[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
What's the ****ing difference with the police then ?

Because what the police do and what they should do to effect social change is a completely political question.

Don't put your hand in the sand. He doesn't say anything about tax dodgers, because they're those he represents.

Representing small mom&pop businesses

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Because what the police do and what they should do to effect social change is a completely political question.

And catching tax evaders isn't part of the police's job ?

Representing small mom&pop businesses

Huh no, representing Dassault and Bouygues.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
And catching tax evaders isn't part of the police's job ?

1) No, it's the revenue service's job.

2) effect social change. Any way you put it, crime in the streets is more of a social issue than tax evasion.

Huh no, representing Dassault and Bouygues.

Then why are you saying he represents the tax dodgers

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
1) No, it's the revenue service's job.

2) effect social change. Any way you put it, crime in the streets is more of a social issue than tax evasion.

That's because you're a brainwashed proto-fascist. Making sure the rich pay their taxes will change much more than karcherizing unemployed thugs ever will.

Huh no, representing Dassault and Bouygues.

Then why are you saying he represents the tax dodgers

Oh, so you mean that semi-voluntary loopholes in tax laws and nepotized subsidies aren't part of the problem ?

[Kuciwalker]

That's because you're a brainwashed proto-fascist. Making sure the rich pay their taxes will change much more than karcherizing unemployed thugs ever will.

Oh, so you mean that semi-voluntary loopholes in tax laws and nepotized subsidies aren't part of the problem ?

I bet I can find a valid economic explanation for at least half of the examples you come up with.

As it stands the largest share of tax evasion comes from small businesses that deal in cash.

[Fake Boris]

I know, but there's a significant part that flows through loopholes which are deliberately not addressed.

[Fake Boris]

Also, nice try at painting restaurants as 'pop and mom shops'.