How do you, as a meat-eater, justify the violence inherent in your food?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by aneeshm


Correct. Milk is acceptable. So are eggs, if you're not strict about it. I personally don't eat eggs because of the disgust factor (it IS a chicken's abortion/foeticide, after all), but I used to earlier. This little caveat exists only for unfertilised eggs, not fertilised ones.

As such, it is very easily possible to gain all the protein you need from vegetables. It doubtless helps to have evolved a cuisine adopted to vegetarianism for over one and half millennia.

How is an UNFERTILISED egg a chicken abortion?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by lord of the mark



Lovely for you. You probably dont run around in a loin cloth or paint your face with stripes either.

Is your point that I only choose not to eat people because it's not societally acceptable?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


How is an UNFERTILISED egg a chicken abortion?

Beat you to the punch.

But my post didn't explain why he was wrong, leaving the door open for him to continue to make a fool of himself, which is why I am a superior poster.

[Arrian]

[Flubber]

In most human societies, I suspect that part of the reason we don't kill other other humans for food is that we organize ourselves in ways that would preclude hunting each other. We set up rules that it is wrong to kill each other and when food is adequate for everyone to eat, there is no reason to go down that path

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


How is an UNFERTILISED egg a chicken abortion?

It isn't. That's why it's compatible with a strict definition of vegetarianism. But it's a slippery slope, and I'd rather not step on to it.

I used to eat eggs earlier, and it's tough to give them up, but I try.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Arrian
I almost made that post, KH. Me too - primates & dolphins are out.

I fully acknowledge that the line between acceptable food and "intelligent animal that I think is cool" is fuzzy.

-Arrian

How much is it absolute intelligence, and how much coolness, I wonder.

If you wont eat monkey, why not go one step beyond, just to be on the safe side, and avoid the most intelligent of the animals that your culture considers acceptable - the pig, probably? Well, I understand why not - your culture makes it easy to avoid monkey, and very difficult to avoid pig - just as my culture makes it easy to avoid pig, but difficult to avoid other red meat. Thats nothing to feel guilty about, we are all creatures of the culture we live in. But it would be a nice start if we could acknowledge that, and not try to justify our cultural givens.

[b etor]

meat is yummy

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by aneeshm


It isn't.

I personally don't eat eggs because of the disgust factor (it IS a chicken's abortion/foeticide, after all)

You, sir, are a weasel as well as an ignoramus.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
How many of the folks attacking Aneeshm make an effort to eat cruelty-free meat?

Does aneeshm make an effort to eat cruelty-free produce?

[Asher]

Originally posted by aneeshm


It isn't. That's why it's compatible with a strict definition of vegetarianism. But it's a slippery slope, and I'd rather not step on to it.

I used to eat eggs earlier, and it's tough to give them up, but I try.

I just had an omelette's. It was delicious.

You are missing out, coward.

[Nubclear]

Using intelligence as a weighing mechanism in ones moral calculations is perfectly acceptable.

Choosing to ignore the results of 1 because you consider some animal X to be disgusting/cool is also perfectly acceptable, and is not inconsistent behaviour.

Really, this line of reasoning you keep using just isn't very good or convincing.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


How much is it absolute intelligence, and how much coolness, I wonder.

If you wont eat monkey, why not go one step beyond, just to be on the safe side, and avoid the most intelligent of the animals that your culture considers acceptable - the pig, probably?

I see a quantum leap between monkey/dolphin and pig, just as I see one between monkey/dolphin and human.

Pigs are certainly significantly smarter than cows, but are not particularly distinguished relative to dog (which I would be more than comfortable eating).

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

Is your point that I only choose not to eat people because it's not societally acceptable?

I wouldnt even begin to analyze the basis for your choices based on internet posts. I just try not to do that.

I merely assert that the fact that you dont eat human beings hardly proves that your justification of meat eating isnt post hoc rationalization. Your avoidance of eating humans COULD be based on anything from staying on the right side of the law and of social acceptablity, or to cultural expectations (not the same thing).

[Arrian]

Well, I understand why not - your culture makes it easy to avoid monkey, and very difficult to avoid pig

Kinda like it's easy for you to not eat deer, goat and whatever the third animal was. I note you didn't give up beef and chicken.

As for pigs, yes I'm sure part of it is that pigs - despite being relatively intelligent animals - have been considered food in our culture for a long time. It wouldn't be terribly difficult for me to avoid pig, actually. I hardly ever eat real bacon anymore, and we have pork cutlets only occasionally.

-Arrian