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Who will be the Republican candidate(s) for the 2008 election?
Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I don't want a Mormon president
religious bigotry
I mean really, Id love to see a member of a misunderstood religious minority elected. Especially one that thinks Im a gentile
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
BTW, has anyone noted, that 37 years after JFK, we've STILL only had one RC President? And never had an RC Vice President?
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Mormon's aren't real Christians, though
and that should bother me, how?
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
Originally posted by lord of the mark
BTW, has anyone noted, that 37 years after JFK, we've STILL only had one RC President? And never had an RC Vice President?
This doesn't surprise me. RC voters at the national level are pretty evenly divided on a lot of issues and RC voters tend to break down a little differently than prot voters. Also, I haven't heard any RC voters express hesitation about voting prot.
Mormon, on the other hand, gives me pause. But the RC voters of Mass. must have vetted the issue to their satisfaction.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
I dont read the surge as McCain toeing the bush line, so much as Bush finally stepping back from the Rummy line, and adopting the McCain line.
That's because you have a higher than average degree of intelligence, perception, and actually think about stuff like this. The average voter, at the end of the day, doesn't apply much intellect or analysis to the process, and all the media types don't help much, either.
I think Iraq has to turn into a miracle, real soon, for it not to be an anchor around McCain's neck. He's already got enough problems as it is.
When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
Originally posted by lord of the mark
BTW, has anyone noted, that 37 years after JFK, we've STILL only had one RC President? And never had an RC Vice President?
Look what happened to JFK. If that wasn't enough, they shot Bobby to hammer the message home.
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
Rudy is the front runner right now and the right will line up for him because of pragmatism. We'll see how that works in the general (if people thought McCain had a temper, they ain't seen nothing yet).
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
In my humble opinion, the only ones who have a real chance of getting the party nominations are:
Repubs:
Rudy Giuliani
Mitt Romney
Democs:
Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama
Laughing Stocks:
John McCain
John Edwards
Personally I don't think any of them would make a really spectacular president, but at this point I'm just hoping for an "okay president."
I think Giuliani has good name recognition but is too extreme for many Republicans. Hillary Clinton might be capable, I don't know, but she's not especially well liked IMO. Barack Obama has charisma, but has to overcome both the race issue and being new on the political scene. And as a Latter-day Saint, even I think there are many much better options for a "first Mormon President" than Romney, though he's "okay" I guess.
So it could easily turn into a race of the substantial "minorities**:" Italian/Catholic, Mormon, Woman, or Black. Take your pick.
Oh, and at LotM, Mormons don't think Jews are "gentiles."
**: As opposed to the standard Rich White Anglo-Saxon Protestant presidents.
The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
"God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
"We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949 The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report
Originally posted by Ecthy
These people are still rich though.
True, but I'm not.
The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
"God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
"We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949 The Kingdom of Jerusalem: Chronicles of the Golden Cross - a Crusader Kings After Action Report
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