condom questions

[MikeH]

Well the theory is that at 15 although your body is capable you aren't really mature enough to cope mentally. I think it varies greatly from person to person. What it definitely does cause problems with is getting educated and early work experience. Young mothers can get through this, and some become very successful, but it's a hell of a lot more difficult than if you aren't a mother and many more fail than succeed.

It's quite a modern concept though, now we in the west live until we're 80 odd there's plenty of time to have kids, when life expectancy was mid 30s it was important to get reproducing early.

Here in the UK age of consent is 16, and you can get married then, have kids etc. Not a huge difference from 15.

[Jon Miller]

The problem with 15 yearolds, at least in the US, is that they are generally considered children. Their parents are expected to provide for them, to direct them, to make sure that they are heading towards being functioning members of society.

This means that a 15 yearold isn't responsible for their own body. A lot of young mothers end up having their children being taken care of by their mothers. Additionally, 15 yearolds don't have other legal rights (nor are close to it) as that all comes at 18 here, not 16.

If parents were no longer responsible for their 15 yearolds, and 15 yearolds had full legal rights, I would see nothing wrong with 15 yearolds having sex with whoever they wanted, legally. For such a society to exist there would have to be state assisted education and living arrangements starting then though, as education doesn't end until people are 22+.

This extended education actually causes children to end up being supported for years longer than 18 (legal age of majority in the US)... which causes added problems, and an extended sense of irresponsibility while having adult powers (except for alcohol in the US, but no one really troubles the college students, and few trouble the highschool students).

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

The early time when I was discussing this with B etor, I settled for trying to convince her to stop having sex with older men. As an example, I referenced the guy who was getting 10 years in jail for getting a blowjob from a 15 yearold. She had told me that she would stick to her own age (until she is 16, when laws change in her state), but I don't think she is doing so.

Jon Miller

[Kuciwalker]

on that topic, b etor: I'm a lot closer to your age than JM and I also think going with older guys is a bit creepy. For that matter, IMO it'd be innappropriate for someone my age to go with you.

[Kuciwalker]

An older guy who is resorting to 15 year old girls probably has psychological issues.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

What she did not ask for was a lecture.

You can point out that sex at 15 is a really bad idea without turning it into a lecture.

Go right ahead.

-Arrian

[b etor]

Originally posted by MOBIUS


No. It's called an abortion.

Originally posted by Jon Miller
The early time when I was discussing this with B etor, I settled for trying to convince her to stop having sex with older men. As an example, I referenced the guy who was getting 10 years in jail for getting a blowjob from a 15 yearold. She had told me that she would stick to her own age (until she is 16, when laws change in her state), but I don't think she is doing so.

Jon Miller

I either said maybe or I'd try.
I haven't had sex in like a month actually. When did we discuss this? I forget.

[Drake Tungsten]

No. It's called an abortion.

Great. Protecting your future by killing your own child; a very appealing option...

Go right ahead.

I'm pretty sure I've already done so.

[Spiffor]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: condom questions

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


a) If you're with somebody you aren't exclusive with you need to wrap it up every time anyway.

b) If you're with a long-term girlfriend then you should know her cycle and be extra super duper careful for the week around ovulation. No "I'll just put it in for a minute" or "I'll pull out before I spurt. Honest".

Condoms don't work if you aren't wearing them. As simple as that. But I'm not going to tell some girl to swallow a bunch of hormones she doesn't want to just because I'm too irresponsible to go to the bathroom and grab a condom...

I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about people in general. Especially the kind of people B etor will have to deal with. Boys are jackasses ==> there will be trouble if she only relies on condoms for birth-control.

[b etor]

The kind of people that I will have to deal with?!?! WTH is that supposed to mean?

[Gibsie]

Guys will want to use you for sex. Especially if they know you're already sleeping with people. And those guys will be "high-risk" for STD's and things like that.

[b etor]

I use guys for sex. All the guys I sleep with are STD free. I make them show me proof.

[Dis]

Originally posted by b etor
I use guys for sex. All the guys I sleep with are STD free. I make them show me proof.

proof?

[b etor]

yea.

[Gibsie]

Some STD's take a while to show up.

I hope you've had that HPV vaccine in the meantime.