Why do they have to be so goddamn Frenching French about everything?

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
wheres davout?

A "debate" between antifrench trolls on the one hand, and a French commie OTOH, about a French law supported by the French right that the commies oppose, is kinda boring.

True.
What is particularly boring (although it could be fun sometimes) is that the most obvious contradiction does not prevent them from building new fortresses of freedom.
For instance, the first law deciding what history should tell (about holocaust) was initiated by a communist MP.

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker




It's vastly superior over here.

1% of the US population is in jail versus 0.1 of the French population.
We can reasonnably deduce that 2.7 millions find that civil liberties in the US are vastly inferior.

[Sandman]

I heard (but don't believe) that you can't cross the street out of turn in America without being arrested.

It's called 'jaywalking' or something.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
For instance, the first law deciding what history should tell (about holocaust) was initiated by a communist MP.

I actually disagree with that law.

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by Spiffor

I actually disagree with that law.

Good.
But desagreeing with that law you also desagree with all the communists MP who voted it, and therefore you also desagree with the Party.
When do you abjure your XIX° century ideology?

[Fake Boris]

On what century is built republicanism, Davout?

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
On what century is built republicanism, Davout?

The Republic was written by Plato (the Greek philosofer, not the Apolyton poster) around 360 BC, that is the fourth century BC.
Republicanism was built presumably not long after.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Sandman
I heard (but don't believe) that you can't cross the street out of turn in America without being arrested.

It's called 'jaywalking' or something.

You can in my state. You can also get arrested for cussing and spitting on the ground. It's not enforced much but I just saw something on the news where there is a lot of people trying to get these laws enforced again like they used to be.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
1% of the US population is in jail versus 0.1 of the French population.
We can reasonnably deduce that 2.7 millions find that civil liberties in the US are vastly inferior.

No.

[Kuciwalker]

I'll give you another shot, but I have to say the prognosis is grim...

[Wezil]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Your source is incorrect.

Snopes has been wrong before (Halloween candy).

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
Good.
But desagreeing with that law you also desagree with all the communists MP who voted it, and therefore you also desagree with the Party.
When do you abjure your XIX° century ideology?

I don't know.

When do you abjure the enlightenment?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
Good.
But desagreeing with that law you also desagree with all the communists MP who voted it, and therefore you also desagree with the Party.

There is not one single individual who fully agrees with a party. A party defends some core values over a very broad scope of issues, and is supposed to think something of every issue. Any person (who also has ideas of his own) is bound to disagree with a party on some, or even many, specifics.

The Communist Party is the one in the political spectrum with whom I share most of the vision (a socialist society that comes to power through democratic means), and with whom I share most proposals. It doesn't mean I'm a drone of them.
Just like any other Commie I know.
Just like any other political activist I know, whatever the party.

When do you abjure your XIX° century ideology?

I don't know.

When do you abjure the enlightenment?

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by Spiffor

I don't know.

When do you abjure the enlightenment?

Enlightenment is not an ideology, it is a method. And I dont know how we can abjure a method.

[Spiffor]

If you wish.

When do you abjure humanism then?