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  • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
    why would Demonratic pork taste any worse than Repug pork?
    How does that follow from my statement?
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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    • Originally posted by DinoDoc
      How does that follow from my statement?
      I simply wonder why Bush would suddenly get an aversion to allowing pork, considering he never did previously. Stories about finding religion are a bit more compelling when not done for convenience.
      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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      • I care not why pork dies only that it does. I won't shed many tears over the fact Bush might find it convenient to do the right thing.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • Originally posted by DinoDoc
          I care not why pork dies only that it does. I won't shed many tears over the fact Bush might find it convenient to do the right thing.
          Mark my words, it is fact the bill will be vetoed. The new bill sent up will have to be clean from a time table perspective but very likely just as chock a block full of bacon as the last.

          edit - and yes that pisses me off.
          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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          • I'd veto that one as well were I in charge. The President needs the power numerous Governors around the country have: the line item veto.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • If what I predicted transpires, I can guarantee W will happily put his stamp of approval on said bill.
              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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              • More's the pity.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                  It's one of the reasons he should.
                  I agree that pork is bad.
                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                  Stadtluft Macht Frei
                  Killing it is the new killing it
                  Ultima Ratio Regum

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                  • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    I'd veto that one as well were I in charge. The President needs the power numerous Governors around the country have: the line item veto.
                    The line item veto is a blatant violation of the separation of powers as envisioned in the US Constitution.

                    Why don't you simply turn the legislature into a body whose only function is to either pass or reject legislation proposed by the President?
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                      The line item veto is a blatant violation of the separation of powers as envisioned in the US Constitution.

                      Why don't you simply turn the legislature into a body whose only function is to either pass or reject legislation proposed by the President?
                      Let a simple majority of Congress nullify any bill the President signs with the line item veto.

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                      • a simple majority in either chamber?
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                          The line item veto is a blatant violation of the separation of powers as envisioned in the US Constitution.
                          Lots of American states seem to have worked just fine with it.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • Over 170 people killed in a series of coordinated bomb attacks in Baghdad - wow, imagine how many would have died if we didn't have this surge in place...
                            Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                            • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              Lots of American states seem to have worked just fine with it.
                              States are run far more as electoral dictatorships than the federal government is, and as far as I know that has always been true.
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                                And the Dems sure as hell aren't going to cut off funding for the troops in Iraq.
                                You're right. Bush is by vetoing the bill giving the troops the funds. It is Bush who is preventing the bill from passing.
                                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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