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Riots! In! Montreal! Cause: Rebel car dealership open on weekends!
Don't get me wrong - I don't give a **** if the guy wants to sell cars on Sundays. It's some people's defence of consumerism as some sort of postmodern neoliberal Gospel that I find - profoundly - pathetic.
What the **** are you smoking and why aren't you sharing?
Don't get me wrong - I don't give a **** if the guy wants to sell cars on Sundays. It's some people's defence of consumerism as some sort of postmodern neoliberal Gospel that I find - profoundly - pathetic.
What the **** are you smoking and why aren't you sharing?
The bottom line is that you keep making relativist claims @ the logical value of ethical statements, yet you argue in this place like a perfect product of run-of-the-mill, prudent, ethics.
I'd think the opposite way... you know why they're angry, so suck it up and accept that angry people scratch cars.
That's like the 10th BS statement in a row you've made.
No, having competition is not a reason to damage property.
You keep saying things like "capitalists like this" etc.. but nobody has defended the scratching of cars.
You defend the idea, and when you lose your point, you argue to the practical, well it's just a scratch.
Well why did you defend the principle then?
Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I don't see that I've been terribly stupid here. It's a question of perspective - as much as I'm not moved when a corporation in difficulty fires 5,000 persons, I'm not when a bunch of angry dudes scratch a car and push people around in a driveway. It's you guys' indignation at something so trivial, and, when you think of it, natural, that I find 'stupid'. 'Indignation-mongering' in the media is much more dangerous than a rock thrown at riot police ever will.
I've been around when things got bad with the police - a few times - and as passionately infuriated I may have been in those occasions, I ended up rationalizing the stuff afterwards - this is how society works anyway. What I truly condemn is how resentful the common man is against anything out of the 'ordinary' (bodily pain is definitely a prime contender here). Grow some balls. Being pushed around in a driveway is not tragic.
What I see here is a general tendency of people pussying out. How badly disturbed can you be if you're arguing about your 'right' to buy a ****ing piece of **** so that can clog the highway to Laval a bit more? "But I have to work and grab my daughter at kindergarten on weekdays!" Yeah buddy, be an alienated tool of the market and then pass on your alienation to another bunch of losers like you, who thankfully will be helping the GDP, working on Sundays, and not breed children into reading Plato under a tree a Sunday afternoon, because time is money.
Don't get me wrong - I don't give a **** if the guy wants to sell cars on Sundays. It's some people's defence of consumerism as some sort of postmodern neoliberal Gospel that I find - profoundly - pathetic.
Most people here didn't say it was tragic.
I agree that the incident was pretty trivial.
Bottom line is this:
-He is allowed to open his shop on weekend
-They don't like it.
-They are NOT allowed to do some of the things they did in retaliation.
You were arguing point number 3 at first, then backed down to the argument that what they did wasn't that bad, which I think very few here will disagree.
Last edited by Lul Thyme; February 27, 2007, 18:34.
Many posters behaved in a kantian manner, i.e. they began to 'universalize' some of my expressed (or implied) statements to demonstrate how absurd they were (with varying degrees of wit).
cf:
More would have happened if there hadn't been police protection. But I suppose he deserved it.
So if Apple continues to dominate the mp3 player market, it's competitors should have their employees go smash some Apple stores rather than improve their own products? I really have trouble seeing how the workers' actions are anything but morally reprehensible.
So if I'm an angry consumer because I can only shop for cars after working all day Mon-Fri, I can go punch a member of the "sucky auto dealers of Montreal" or whatever it's called?
They were also trying to prevent customers from even shopping at the dealership. Sounds remarkably like what very angry pro-lifer's do blocking abortion clinics
You're doing the same thing buddy. This is not what I'm really arguing about...
Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Many posters behaved in a kantian manner, i.e. they began to 'universalize' some of my expressed (or implied) statements to demonstrate how absurd they were (with varying degrees of wit).
Kant didn't invent reductio ad absurdem, and use of it doesn't in any way imply his ethics.
Originally posted by Oncle Boris
What I see here is a general tendency of people pussying out. How badly disturbed can you be if you're arguing about your 'right' to buy a ****ing piece of **** so that can clog the highway to Laval a bit more? "But I have to work and grab my daughter at kindergarten on weekdays!" Yeah buddy, be an alienated tool of the market and then pass on your alienation to another bunch of losers like you, who thankfully will be helping the GDP, working on Sundays, and not breed children into reading Plato under a tree a Sunday afternoon, because time is money.
Don't get me wrong - I don't give a **** if the guy wants to sell cars on Sundays. It's some people's defence of consumerism as some sort of postmodern neoliberal Gospel that I find - profoundly - pathetic.
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