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  • #76
    Originally posted by Jon Miller
    But where did I say that I was talking about the success of humans relative to human society?

    Yes, I was talking about humans, people, homo sapiens sapiens, whatever you wish to call them. And when discussing methods, yes, human society is part of the dialect (and I used a colloquial example). But I wasn't talking about the success in human society, since that generally depends on the type of society that the humans are involved in, and so isn't universal. I was talking bald, unmitigated, measure of success. Which could be considered universal.

    JM
    You know what - You're right. You didn't. You may have implied, inferred, reffered, or suggested... but you didn't say.

    As a matter of fact you haven't defined ANYTHING you are yammering about. And, as such I can no longer continue trying to chase down your point. If you have one, make it. If not, I'm outta here

    Tom P.
    Can you tell I'm off-assignment?

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Jon Miller


      Genetically. It is a purely scientific way to define success.

      JM
      I ain't having kids, my "selfish" genes can go jump in a lake. There are foar more important ways to define success in a sentient species, like standard of living and technological progress.

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      • #78
        Planning to fail at life

        Jon Miller
        Jon Miller-
        I AM.CANADIAN
        GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by padillah


          Don't let a CPA hear you say that.



          Don't let a CPA hear you say that either.



          Boy, you're just lookin' to catch a beat-down from a CPA.

          Let me guess, you have no real grasp of economics, do you?

          Tom P.
          Much of what passes as economics is ideology, not science.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Jon Miller
            Planning to fail at life

            Jon Miller
            Overpopulation:

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Odin
              Much of what passes as economics is ideology, not science.
              What would you know about science?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Odin


                Much of what passes as economics is ideology, not science.
                Kinda, those two are not mutually exclusive.

                For example, Regans famous "Tricle-Down Economics". Sure, the theory and outlook is ideological, it is based on the idea that circumstances will support it.

                However, in practice it can be evaluated, measured, and forcasted to determine it's end result. It is this application of measurement and evaluation that defines a science. Ideologic or not, if the Scientific Meathod can be applied to it with reasonable results then it is a science.

                Tom P.

                Source cited

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                  What would you know about science?

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Donegeal
                    2

                    Aurora 9-13-05
                    Jordan 1-28-07

                    Get me a doctor! I have to get snipped!
                    2

                    Flubberson 05-09-03
                    Flubbette 14-09-6


                    I have done my part.


                    I am now studiously ignoring the whole issue of the "snipping"
                    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                    • #85
                      If you wanted to be successful donate to as many sperm banks as you can.
                      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Flubber


                        2

                        Flubberson 05-09-03
                        Flubbette 14-09-6


                        I have done my part.


                        I am now studiously ignoring the whole issue of the "snipping"
                        Why? What's up? What do you need? What's worng??

                        Any questions?

                        It does smell like burned meat. But I guess that's because it is.

                        Tom P.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Jon Miller
                          additionally, economics isn't natural
                          Neither is natural science. (science is the epitome of a human construct)
                          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Dauphin
                            If you wanted to be successful donate to as many sperm banks as you can.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Dauphin
                              If you wanted to be successful donate to as many sperm banks as you can.
                              I thought of that too, but it was after I vowed not to reply and after you posted so... Thank you kind sir.

                              Tom P.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by padillah


                                Yes, Mathematics! Statistics! Logic! Computers!

                                These are all very well understood. Many people go to great lengths to understand them.

                                How can you say natural sciences are well understood? If I were to ask you for the gene that controls eye color, could you find it? No, as far as I understand it's not been identified yet. If I asked you why whales migrate thousands of miles to die, could you tell me? No. If I were to ask you how to cure several hundred deseases, could you tell me? Heck, you can't get two drug companies to agree on the best way to loose weight! How on earth can you say this is a well understood field?


                                Mathematics is as defined as it's going to get. Numbers add up, it's that simple. Until someone finds a way to messup addition mathematics will always be understood.

                                ...

                                Short, ill-defined answers...
                                Little or no actual knowledge of the subject...
                                Inflamatory statements...
                                No factual information at all...


                                A TROLL!!!

                                OMG and I fell for it. Pretty good JM.

                                OK, we can stop now.
                                We've identified the troll.
                                Nothing to see here.
                                Move along.
                                Nothing to see...

                                Tom P.
                                Astrology also involved maths and calculation
                                I need a foot massage

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