to put it differently, what Witt said was that the answer to the problems of philosophy was the disappearance of the problems - the proof that they are in fact pseudoproblems. And what phil did after that was either try to prove him right in detail (analytic phil) or to deal with the issues of being human that could no longer be addressed in a "truth functional" way, but that had NOT disappeared, contra the TLP.
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A logical operator is truthfunctional when its truth value is strictly function of the truth value of the propositions it links.
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It means that the value of philosophy is not a simple case of looking at the truth of one or two propositions (using "philosophy" as the operator). In this sense, the term was used correctly.
LOTM understood very well the point, so unless you can show telepathy between us, you've got to admit I was making sense...In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.
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Originally posted by Arrian
Anybody care to explain this gibberish?
-Arrian
"Not A" is false if A is true, and true if A is false.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.
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Originally posted by Oncle Boris
It means that the value of philosophy is not a simple case of looking at the truth of one or two propositions (using "philosophy" as the operator). In this sense, the term was used correctly.
LOTM understood very well the point, so unless you can show telepathy between us, you've got to admit I was making sense...). Something that I now think is more important for KH to do than reading Kuhn.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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LotM evidently has had some experience with these bizzaro philosophical terms. I haven't. To me it's gibberish.
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Originally posted by Arrian
Anybody care to explain this gibberish?
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You have a set of statements which have a "truth-value" associated with them (to keep it simple, assume that there are only two for each statement: true and false)
A truth function is one which links the truth values of a set of statements to the truth values of another set of statements.
As an example: KH is smarter than Oncle Boris if and only if Oncle Boris is a philosopher and philosophers are stupid.
The statements here are:
A) KH is smarter than Fakeboris
B) Fakeboris is a philosopher
C) Philosophers are stupid
Represent the truth value of B and C as (truth value B, truth value C)
Represent the function as f
f(T,T) = T (if both B and C are T then A is T)
f(F,T) = F
f(T,F) = F
f(F,F) = F
f is a truth function. It maps a point in a space of truth values of a set of statements to a point in a space of truth values of another set of statements12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Originally posted by Arrian
LotM evidently has had some experience with these bizzaro philosophical terms. I haven't. To me it's gibberish.
-Arrian
Thats not phil, its logic. Think of computer code. If a set of variables can be T or F, and if I have code that takes these variables as inputs, and if it spits out an output of T or F, and it always spits out the same answer for any given set of inputs, then its a truth function, IIUC.
I hadnt heard it before, or if i did, didnt remember. Its just that reading the TLP (and some later analytic phil) I had SOME experience with the overlap of formal logic and modern phil."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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the part that kuci challenged, Arrian, was not what truth functional meant, but how it could be applied to a discipline like philosophy, which isnt a "function".
That is what I tried to explain, and apparently I did so correctly."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
I understood it cause Ive read the damned TLP, and thought about it (not sure I ENTIRELY understood it). Something that I now think is more important for KH to do than reading Kuhn.
12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio Regum
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I don't particularly care what you think is important for me to do, dude."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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