Warning: Undefined array key "birthday" in phar://.../vb/vb.phar/api/notice.php on line 1
Physicists Agree! SW can kick Trek's @ss! -
Apolyton Civilization Site
The Altera Centauri collection has been brought up to date by Darsnan. It comprises every decent scenario he's been able to find anywhere on the web, going back over 20 years.
25 themes/skins/styles are now available to members. Check the select drop-down at the bottom-left of each page.
Call To Power 2 Cradle 3+ mod in progress: https://apolyton.net/forum/other-games/call-to-power-2/ctp2-creation/9437883-making-cradle-3-fully-compatible-with-the-apolyton-edition
As technology advances there is eventually a point beyond which if a dictatorship gains control of society it will be impossible to overthrow from within.
Somehow I don't think so, at least in the context of SW. It might be more secure than the actual Empire of the films, but to have absolute control is impossible. You'd need to watch everyone at all times, and that means being able to watch the people who do the watching, and watching the people who were watching the people, and so on ad infinitum. Assigning the duty to monitoring computers doesn't help, since any computer intelligent enough to detect treason in progress wouldn't be perfectly trustworthy itself.
The matter is complicated by the fact that even the most oppressive government has to do some, uh, governing from time to time, and judgment suffers when everyone's nervous that they might be suspected of sedition if they respond to a problem in the wrong way. And, in the case of SW, there are lots of aliens, who are bound to think and react differently from humans--which makes it hard to devise general rules for controlling the population.
The closest you could get to absolute power is an absolute mess like "1984," where nobody could risk the possibility that they *might* be watched. Only such a system is too inefficient to last, and needs to consume vast numbers of lives and resources to sustain itself. Plus they're incredibly unwieldy and don't adapt well to sudden changes. That's not good when you've got most of a galaxy to take care of.
But SW wasn't an exercise in sci-fi speculation like ST in the first place. It was just George Lucas rolling all his childhood fantasies, from WWII dogfights to swashbuckling sword duels to wild west gunslingers and more, into one giant ball. Even the Empire at the time of ANH is plainly modelled after the Roman Empire, and the plot is a tribute to Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress." It was never meant to be a futurist jag-off like ST; hence "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." Pure fairy-tale escapism, with laser guns and robots instead of swords and dragons.
That is of course one of the benefits of SW, that is thousands of years beyond our tech vice hundreds like ST. It is understandable that ST should be based somewhat on tech we understand, but SW is so far removed even if we were to recieve working plans for a Star Destroyer we shouldn't have any freaking idea what we are looking at.
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
Originally posted by korn469
I say the new BSG is better than SW, ST or B5. Also, the triumph video was hilarious!
While I think the new BSG is a far better dramatic television series, there is no real attempt to create an entire "modern universe" as there was in those other shows. So comparison in this regard is difficult.
If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
Somehow I don't think so, at least in the context of SW. It might be more secure than the actual Empire of the films, but to have absolute control is impossible. You'd need to watch everyone at all times, and that means being able to watch the people who do the watching, and watching the people who were watching the people, and so on ad infinitum. Assigning the duty to monitoring computers doesn't help, since any computer intelligent enough to detect treason in progress wouldn't be perfectly trustworthy itself.
The matter is complicated by the fact that even the most oppressive government has to do some, uh, governing from time to time, and judgment suffers when everyone's nervous that they might be suspected of sedition if they respond to a problem in the wrong way. And, in the case of SW, there are lots of aliens, who are bound to think and react differently from humans--which makes it hard to devise general rules for controlling the population.
The closest you could get to absolute power is an absolute mess like "1984," where nobody could risk the possibility that they *might* be watched. Only such a system is too inefficient to last, and needs to consume vast numbers of lives and resources to sustain itself. Plus they're incredibly unwieldy and don't adapt well to sudden changes. That's not good when you've got most of a galaxy to take care of.
But SW wasn't an exercise in sci-fi speculation like ST in the first place. It was just George Lucas rolling all his childhood fantasies, from WWII dogfights to swashbuckling sword duels to wild west gunslingers and more, into one giant ball. Even the Empire at the time of ANH is plainly modelled after the Roman Empire, and the plot is a tribute to Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress." It was never meant to be a futurist jag-off like ST; hence "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." Pure fairy-tale escapism, with laser guns and robots instead of swords and dragons.
I wish I shared your optimism. thanks for trying though
Tweet
Comment