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  • #31
    Originally posted by Asher

    Those books were not nearly influential, sorry.
    If we're talking about influence on the Scientific Community, they were. Did Roddenberry ever get nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize?(Clarke)

    Simply on the basis that far more people know who Captain Kirk is over Heinlein.

    Woohoo. More people know who Paris Hilton is than Lincoln too.
    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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    • #32
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Lonestar
        If we're talking about influence on the Scientific Community, they were. Did Roddenberry ever get nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize?(Clarke)
        Peace Prize = scientific award in Lonestar-land?

        Woohoo. More people know who Paris Hilton is than Lincoln too.
        Actually I doubt that.

        And if you want to compare Clarke to Lincoln, well, I think I made my point.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #34
          I don't think that guy is a very good physicist anyway given his response to the host's question about "Jedi powers."
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          • #35
            I'm not sure what's so implausible about the political organization, unless you think that a dictatorship couldn't emerge at all.


            I think any future dictatorship with much further advanced technology would have a much firmer grip on subject planets than the Empire does.
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            • #36
              It ****ing silly if it's supposed to be sci-fi (i.e. explore future social consequences of tech). As fantasy it's much more robust.


              Agreed there.

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              • #37
                Didn't even watch it, but I know what he was gonna say...

                ...FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!
                Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                  Most of the backstory portrays SW as having an economic organization relatively similar to ours. I'm not sure what's so implausible about the political organization, unless you think that a dictatorship couldn't emerge at all.
                  Excuse me, but why would a far more advanced society have economic organizations similar to ours?

                  If anything, that is more proof of SW's lazyness and the fact it is fantasy.
                  If you don't like reality, change it! me
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Asher


                    Peace Prize = scientific award in Lonestar-land?

                    We're talking influence, right? Or are you moving the goalposts?


                    Actually I doubt that.

                    And if you want to compare Clarke to Lincoln, well, I think I made my point.
                    Fair enough. More people know who Paris Hilton is, then, say, Gordan Moore.
                    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GePap


                      Excuse me, but why would a far more advanced society have economic organizations similar to ours?

                      If anything, that is more proof of SW's lazyness and the fact it is fantasy.
                      I'd rather live in the SWverse than in the Federation, at least in one of them you have economic freedoms
                      Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                      • #41
                        The reason why ST > SW is simple.

                        Roddenberry was an aeronautical engineer by training.
                        Lucas got a frickin' BA in film.

                        Roddenberry was a pilot in the air force.
                        Lucas got rejected when he applied for the air force.

                        Roddenberry >>>>> Lucas
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Lonestar
                          We're talking influence, right? Or are you moving the goalposts?
                          Influence in the scientific community. You are the one moving goalposts with talks about Peace Prizes.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Lonestar


                            I'd rather live in the SWverse than in the Federation, at least in one of them you have economic freedoms
                            Economic freedom?

                            A replicator is the ultimate example of economic freedom, since as long as you have access to sufficient amounts of energy, you can have anything you want.

                            What greater freedom could you have???
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • #44
                              Oh yeah, that's good. Of course, Roddenberry went off the deep-end by the time of "The Motion Picture" and made everything into New Age Hippie Pacifists Cowards that turned off Paramount to letting him have influence in the Trek Franchise. Which is why TWoK and TUC were so militaristic, and when Roddenberry died DS9 took a screeaching turn to the right, and incidentally, had the highest quality of the Trek Shows.
                              Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GePap


                                Economic freedom?

                                A replicator is the ultimate example of economic freedom, since as long as you have access to sufficient amounts of energy, you can have anything you want.
                                Doesn't work that way, there's a Material that the Replicator uses to make stuff. The Material has to come from somewhere, no doubt from commie mines.
                                Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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