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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I'd rather assume that everything just works than have them try to justify it.
I'd rather assume that everything just works than have them try to justify it.
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Those books were not nearly influential, sorry. Simply on the basis that far more people know who Captain Kirk is over Heinlein.Originally posted by Lonestar
Please, if you want influential Sci-fi look at Clarke (Communications SATs!) or Heinlein(HUDs!), both of which preceded ST by several years, or even decades. What did ST "Influence"? Handheld comms? Oh snap, it wasn't like the Military wasn't alreayd heading in that direction."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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SW is fantasy with technology, plain and simple. Look at the social organisation. It's ridiculously backwards for such an advanced society. That's partly due to the fact that SW also has completely uneven technological advancement...12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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I said it before, I will invariably say it again:
SW is a fantasy movie with futuristic elements. The first three are enjoyable, specially Empire and Return of the Jedi.
ST in all its forms is an attempt, with varying success, of creating science fiction.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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Word, yo.Originally posted by KrazyHorse
SW is fantasy with technology, plain and simple. Look at the social organisation. It's ridiculously backwards for such an advanced society. That's partly due to the fact that SW also has completely uneven technological advancement...
It's swordfighting in the future, it's painfully simple across every aspect of the show. It's such a dreadfully simple series of movies that I loathe watching them.
Give me ST: First Contact over any of the Star Wars..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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SW is fantasy with technology, plain and simple. Look at the social organisation. It's ridiculously backwards for such an advanced society.
Most of the backstory portrays SW as having an economic organization relatively similar to ours. I'm not sure what's so implausible about the political organization, unless you think that a dictatorship couldn't emerge at all.Comment
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Again, this is a dumb means of arguing which movie/TV series was better...12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Originally posted by Asher
I'll take technobabble over Star Wars' awful soap opera-esque dialogue and plotlines any day.
The issue, here, however, is who would win in a Battle. Obviously that would be the Star Warsverse.
So complex they can't go a season without wild continuity errors? And hitting the reset Button at the end of every.single.episode.That's the other thing...the storylines and plots behind ST are way more complex.
Hmm...Most of the movies are excellent allegories as well. They're simply a deeper show than the childish Star Wars BAM BAM BAM I SHOT YOU YOU DEAD kind of game that makes 19 year old boys "REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT A WII" so they can pretend to be a JEDI KNIGHT!!! And THROW THINGS AROUND THE ROOM TELEKENETICALLY!!!
Nope, I do not see the difference between the two, sorry.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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B5 trumps them both.I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"Comment
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The difference is the diehards of both are blowhard losers, but there's more SW blowhards than ST -- because SW is easier to comprehend. IT HAS 'SPLOSIONS!!!"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Firefly pwns ST anyway, except TOS.Comment
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Oh my GOD! THAT SHOW IS AWFUL! You should be killed.Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
B5 trumps them both.
The entire show is written and produced by insecure little dweebs who were jealous of Star Trek. Rent the DVD boxsets and listen to the commentary, it's pathetic."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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The economic organisation is ridiculous. Look at the ****ing planet Luke comes from (don't know name). His uncle and aunt are ****ing sand farmers operating as a family farm. And they buy used ****ing intelligent, talking robots to help them fix **** around the house.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
SW is fantasy with technology, plain and simple. Look at the social organisation. It's ridiculously backwards for such an advanced society.
Most of the backstory portrays SW as having an economic organization relatively similar to ours. I'm not sure what's so implausible about the political organization, unless you think that a dictatorship couldn't emerge at all.
It ****ing silly if it's supposed to be sci-fi (i.e. explore future social consequences of tech). As fantasy it's much more robust.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Was that clip taken from the Undatable Geek Channel?"The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
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