So democrats, who else will be voting republican now?

[Drake Tungsten]

Hillary

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Hillary

Be careful of what you ask for, you may get her.

I still remember the elation I felt when the Repugs were dumb enough to choose Reagan as their candidate. I knew my country would never elect anyone that right wing.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Hillary

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Bosh


Park Chung Hee/Lee Singman/Chun Do Hwan (pack of thugs though they be, whose deaths were things to celebrate) > Kim Il Sung/Kim Jong-il.

Good results don't justify the initial crime.

[Drake Tungsten]

Be careful of what you ask for, you may get her.

I hope we get her. It'd be nice to have a decent Dem candidate for once.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by rah
His house deal was quite shady.
So anyone that buys the, fresh honest image is just fooling themselves. He's just another politician.
And not a special one at that.
But he is likable. But will that be enough.

Are we talking about Edwards? Then, not really, because we can reasonably expect that the house appreciated that much in the ultra hot real estate market in DC.

Interestingly, Edwards is the only Dem who polls have beating any named GOP candidate.

[mitch]

Re: Re: Re: So democrats, who else may be voting republican now?

Originally posted by Vesayen


For the life of me I do not not why ANY American would vote for Obama except for 1 of 2 reasons. 1. Novelty. 2. Racism-vote for him because he is black. HE is a junior senator with no executive experience! WHAT qualifies him to be president? I ask people if they can name *ONE* poliocy he has enacted or even name *ONE* view he has.... people scowl at me and the conversation ends.

I would vote for Guliani without any hesitation... a lot of the time the best you can hope for is someone who is princapled, and he is. I'm from NY and really like him.

name one view he has??? are you crazy he wrote a whole damn book outlining all of this views and it has remained on the bestseller list for some time now. maybe you should read it. Its so funny that this is the one point that is constantly brought up about Obama even though he has so thoroughly explained his life and political mentality in his book that he has been more open than any other politician in recent memory.

hows this for experience.

Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.... The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him. But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors...and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president.

-Barak Obama, October 26, 2002

check the date on the quote. so while almost every major experienced policy maker in washington was wrong about the Iraq war, Obama hit it spot on. read the rest of that essay here: http://www.obama2010.us/2002/10/26/iraq_war.php

meanwhile he has had over two years in the US Senate, seven in the Illinois' Senate, has worked as a civil rights lawyer, a professor of Constitutional law, has a degree in international relations, was the first black person elected president of the Harvard Law Review, where he graduated magna *** laude.

Unfortunetly we can expect your statement to be repeated endlessly throughout the next few months even though the man has been giving speeches articulating his positions extensively and written a 300+ page book detailing them even further. hopefully you can now see that your view of the only reasons someone would vote for Obama is ridiculously off the mark.

[Ramo]

Interestingly, Edwards is the only Dem who polls have beating any named GOP candidate.

Do you mean every named GOP candidate?

[Dis]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs


Thank you; always been my position.

I seem to always vote for the losing candidate. I voted Kerry last election. . I kind of like the underdogs.

[Zkribbler]

Then you should go to work for my union.

We backed Villaraigossa the first time he ran against Hahn for mayor, and Hahn won. When Hahn ran for reelction, we backed him and Villaraigossa won.

We backed Gray Davis in the California recall election.

We backed Howard Dean in the presidental primaries and then John Kerry in the presidential election.

We opposed Schwartenegger's re-election.

I love it when Repub's complain that government is in the back pocket of labor.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Looks like Richardson's in. Highlights highlighted, for those who don't know him:

Democratic Governor of New Mexico Joins Race

By MATTHEW L. WALD

WASHINGTON, Jan. 21 — Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico said on Sunday that he intended to run for the Democratic nomination for president, joining a growing field that includes Senators Hillary Clinton of New York (since Saturday) and Barack Obama of Illinois (since Tuesday).

Mr. Richardson, elected to a second term as governor in November with a historic 69 percent of the vote, has a varied résumé. He was elected to Congress to represent the Santa Fe area eight times, and then was chosen by President Bill Clinton to be ambassador to the United Nations, and later, secretary of energy.

As governor, he has kept a hand in international politics, working to arrange a cease-fire this month between the government of Sudan and rebels in the Darfur region, and meeting several times with officials from North Korea to discuss nuclear weapons.

Mr. Richardson, 59, was born in Pasadena, Calif., and spent part of his childhood in Mexico City. His mother is from Mexico.

In an interview Sunday on the ABC program “This Week,” Mr. Richardson said: “I believe this country is a very tolerant, positive country. I believe the country would be ready for a woman president, an African-American president, Hispanic president.”

He added, “But I wouldn’t run as a Hispanic candidate. I would run as an American, proud to be Hispanic, proud of my heritage.”

Video of his announcement appears on his Web site in English and Spanish.

Mr. Richardson also emphasized his experience as governor, dealing with budgets, health care, the environment, drunken driving and other issues. In his position as chairman of the Western Governors’ Association and at home in Santa Fe he has been a proponent of renewable energy sources.

Mr. Richardson is an enthusiastic campaigner. According to his campaign, the Guinness Book of World Records cites him as the politician who shook the most hands in one day — 13,392 — during his 2002 campaign for governor, beating President Theodore Roosevelt’s record of 8,515, set in 1909.

Perhaps more relevant to a national campaign, Mr. Richardson is also a strong fund-raiser. While chairman of the Democratic Governors Association, he raised more than $28 million for candidates for governor.

Richardson has some dubious aspects to him, but most politicians do (certainly all the likely candidates, from both parties). So far, he's my guy. Unfortunately, I'm sure this makes his candidacy just as viable as the last Dem I really liked in a race -- Bruce Babbitt in '88 .

[Drake Tungsten]

Hillary/Richardson '08

[Imran Siddiqui]

Richardson

[Drake Tungsten]

Obama/Richardson would be good as well, if only for the fact that it would be the real-life implementation of a Dave Chapelle joke.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Hillary/Richardson '08

Yeah, I suspect that's the position Richardson's actually running for.

Still, the Dems now have a a race shaping up between a woman and a black man as leading candidates, with a hispanic as a credible dark horse. The GOP wil likely field 6-8 old white guys (including oldest-candidate-ever McCain). It'll be an interesting contrast.