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Originally posted by Lorizael
You sure about that?
Half of all children are below average
You sure about that?
Assuming they are referring to mean of course...
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If one child scores 100 and nine children score 10, this means the average is 19. Which means 90% are below average. I will give you the point though as these biological parameters often follow a normal distribution.
Assuming they are referring to mean of course...Speaking of Erith:
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You'll give me the point? I'm pretty sure we're in agreement. Median is the figure where half will be beneath it, whereas with the average/mean, half might be below, but it really depends on the distribution.
I don't understand all the confusion here. I know my math terms.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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According to Ron White you can't fix stupid.Comment
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So all we need to do to raise most people above the average is to make one person really, really, really stupid.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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We already have one
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I have heard this before, I heard "48% are below average" on the news I believe when referring to mental health trusts. It tells me absolutely nothing. Is the standard generally high? Is there a huge disparity? Are most good or most bad with a few outstanding examples? They are probably more meaningful, if not numeric answers.Originally posted by Provost Harrison
If one child scores 100 and nine children score 10, this means the average is 19. Which means 90% are below average. I will give you the point though as these biological parameters often follow a normal distribution.
Assuming they are referring to mean of course...Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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The only scoring system for intelligence we have, the IQ test, is designed in such a way that all three are the same.Originally posted by Lorizael
Median, mode, mean - they're all the same, right?
Huh.
Well, according to Wikipedia, average is an ambiguous term that does not necessarily have mathematical meaning. I always thought average and mean were interchangeable.
Still, ambiguity bad!12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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The whole thing strikes me as ironic.Originally posted by Oncle Boris
The guy is a douche in many ways but one: he's right that energy (money, time or other) invested at the top brings better results.
Supposedly conservative president initiates no child left behind - a sort of wealth of edcuational resources redristribution program
Likewise it is acknowledged that giving more to those already blessed advances society the most.
hmmmm...."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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Who said that educating gifted children in a separate stream woul cost more per child?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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How so?Originally posted by KrazyHorse
The only scoring system for intelligence we have, the IQ test, is designed in such a way that all three are the same.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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What do you mean, how so?
IQ tests are standardised. Raw scores are retabulated "on a curve" to fit a Gaussian distribution with a mean of 100 and a SD of either 15 or 16 (depending on the test).
As long as the standardisation is performed correctly, then to within a very small margin of error the median and the mean are the same.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio RegumComment
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How else do you think they would come up with a single number to score "intelligence"?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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The 'Lake Wobegon Effect' is named after Garrison Keiler's mythical community where (in his words) "the women are strong, the men are good looking, and all the children are above average".Today's simple truth: Half of all children are below average in intelligence. We do not live in Lake Wobegon.
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That didn't take three posts. You could easily have been just as condescending in one. Anyways, thanks for the explanation.Originally posted by KrazyHorse
What do you mean, how so?
IQ tests are standardised. Raw scores are retabulated "on a curve" to fit a Gaussian distribution with a mean of 100 and a SD of either 15 or 16 (depending on the test).
As long as the standardisation is performed correctly, then to within a very small margin of error the median and the mean are the same.
I mentioned mode as well, though. Do most people have an IQ of 100?
Edit: Are there more people with an IQ of 100 than any other IQ? Erp. I misspoke. I've probably already been lambasted for this.Last edited by Lorizael; January 19, 2007, 16:07.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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