Russia slams Estonia statue move

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
You support the rights of settlers?

Yes. Of them being not second-class citizens, now that the country is established and working.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Saras
Who doesn't?

It was a disclaimer to Tassi, who'd call me a Russia-hater otherwise.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Yes. Of them being not second-class citizens, now that the country is established and working.

So if the Estonians had tossed them out back in '91 that would have been cool?

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


You support the rights of settlers?

good catch

[Solver]

Russia has even threatened sanctions with regard to this move. Quite ridiculous - legally speaking, the Estonians are within their rights to do whatever they want here. The statue is in Estonia, and it's not like they are ordering all Russian flags removed from the country or something.

In reality, Russia is bitter that it has completely lost control of the Baltic countries, and it's quite pissed about the fact that Russia is hated by the people of the Baltics.

[Arrian]

Sanctions because of a statue?

Silly Russians.

-Arrian

[Asher]

Is it just me is Estonia's anthem way better than Russia's?

[BeBMan]

Damn sovereignty, even the former colonies do what they want now!

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Asher
Is it just me is Estonia's anthem way better than Russia's?

Gah. You were extremely close to catching me.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
So if the Estonians had tossed them out back in '91 that would have been cool?

No. But it would have been understandable.
I hold established countries to higher standards than establishing ones (or than pre-countries)

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Spiffor

No. But it would have been understandable.
I hold established countries to higher standards than establishing ones (or than pre-countries)

Im not speaking so much of the actions of countries, as of the attitudes of some people toward human beings demonized because they are "settlers"

I certainly believe that it was prudent for Israel to remove the settlers from Gaza. And that it will be prudent for Israel to remove the settlers from those portions of the West Bank that will end up in a Pal state (IE excluding those in Maaleh Adumim and several others) What I dont much like is the attitude expressed here that settlers as a group are less than human, that violence against them is excusable, that their very existence is such an act of aggression that concern for the safety and sympathy at their plight, is a sign of incipient fascism.


Im glad to see that you seem to share my feelings.

[Lancer]

Estonia should invite the Germans in to protect them from the Russians.

[Zkribbler]

Putin would be poopin.

[Lancer]

Estonia needs boomers, all the Baltic countries need boomers chock full of nuke tipped ICBMs to keep the peace. If they had those they could put up a statue of Adolf in its place and thumb their noses at Putin.

Besides, there's likely not much call for statues of Adolf anymore, at least outside of Austria. Prolly pick one up cheap. Liven up any courtyard.

[Blaupanzer]

It's a statue, for silly sakes. Moving a statue does not mean ousting the "settlers." As to Russian sanctions, how dependent is Estonia on Russian economic relations? Incidentally, most Estonians don't think much of Hitler either. So I wouldn't be buying any Adolph statues for resale in Tallinn (sp?).