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  • #16
    Originally posted by -Jrabbit
    KH = killjoy

    Anything that helps reduce the cost of medical care is to be wildly applauded.
    Incremental improvements don't deserve applause.

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    • #17
      Indeed.
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      • #18
        The fact that this is being hailed as the "the biggest techno-medical breakthrough from India in the past few years" should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of India's research institutions.
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
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        • #19
          Why are Canadians so negative about everything? Is it the cold weather and short days?

          Seasonal affective disorder is my guess.
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          • #20
            I live in Baltimore right now, and it's ~10 C in the middle of January, so I'm quite happy with the weather. I'm negative about stuff when others are overly enthusiastic about it. It's my way of bringing balance.
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
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            • #21
              at this rate, maybe i can go back to smoking without worries.

              cybernetic lungs by 2037?

              :-p

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              • #22
                Originally posted by -Jrabbit
                Why are Canadians so negative about everything? Is it the cold weather and short days?

                Seasonal affective disorder is my guess.
                It's called realism. If it were a more common ideology in the US, maybe you'd be less screwed up.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                • #23
                  Yeah, go tell that to a cancer victim who can't afford treatment, you pompous, insensitive jerk.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                    a) Given that the cost of the material itself is going to be only a minor consideration (when you take into account the cost of the surgery) it's not all that important
                    Nonsense. When you decrease the cost of one of the components of the treatment by such a large order of magnitude it is extremely important. Even more so when you couple it with the cost of the surgery.

                    b) I think they've probably overstated the cost of the currently available material. Probably by including in it the IP cost. I truly doubt that the manufacturing costs are that high. Whereas the cost they're quoting is manufacturing cost
                    Translation: you don't know.

                    c) The biodegradability aspect is nice, but not essential. It's a relatively minor inconvenience to go back in and pull out the gel
                    Not having to do a second operation on a cancer patient is "nice, but not essential"?

                    d) Even if a-c are dismissed, this is not a "fantastic cancer breakthrough". It's simply an improvement of an existing treatment. The media hype surrounding medical advances is almost always a ridiculous example of overstatement. So calm down and gain some perspective.
                    A through C are dismissed and your whole post was an overstatement. Stick to physics kid.
                    What?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by -Jrabbit
                      Yeah, go tell that to a cancer victim who can't afford treatment, you pompous, insensitive jerk.


                      But I advocate a system where they don't need to worry about affording treatment. I'm condemning the system that makes that an issue.

                      Apparently your educational system also needs some funding.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                      • #26
                        BTW, BAN HIM MING!
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #27
                          Nonsense. When you decrease the cost of one of the components of the treatment by such a large order of magnitude it is extremely important. Even more so when you couple it with the cost of the surgery.


                          Er, no. When one cost is orders of magnitude larger than the other, it really doesn't matter how small you make the other cost.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by -Jrabbit
                            Yeah, go tell that to a cancer victim who can't afford treatment, you pompous, insensitive jerk.
                            Civilized countries have socialized medicine, where people can have a treatment...
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by -Jrabbit
                              Yeah, go tell that to a cancer victim who can't afford treatment, you pompous, insensitive jerk.
                              Look, most people who get cancer either smoke or do some other activity that massively increases their risk. It's their own fault.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                                Look, most people who get cancer either smoke or do some other activity that massively increases their risk. It's their own fault.
                                Lung cancer, yes. Cancer in general, I'm not sure that's true...
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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