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  • #46
    I predict the future will be much like an episode of the Outer Limits
    Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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    • #47
      Originally posted by General Ludd



      why are you posting here? You're spreading like a disease.
      i might be a disease, but i dont have any. yayyyy.



      parents shouldn't care if their kids are gay or not.
      my dad = homophobe.
      my siblings are all young tho so idk which way they go yet.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Doddler


        But this thread is about eugenics motivated by enlightenment and ethics.


        yeah, riiiiiiiiight
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by The Mad Monk
          If you can abort them for any reason, it follows that you can "adjust" them as well.
          This is the most interesting part of the topic to me.

          Wouldn't claiming it's unethical to alter the sexual preference of a fetus be premised on a violation of its rights as an individual? If so, wouldn't that have serious implications for the abortion debate?
          Unbelievable!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by General Ludd



            why are you posting here? You're spreading like a disease.

            Great way to welcome newbies
            I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

            Asher on molly bloom

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            • #51
              Welcome, noob!
              "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
              I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
              Middle East!

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              • #52
                I think he knows her from Eventis (cue someone to say "WTF is Eventis").
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #53
                  o jeez thnx.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Darius871


                    This is the most interesting part of the topic to me.

                    Wouldn't claiming it's unethical to alter the sexual preference of a fetus be premised on a violation of its rights as an individual? If so, wouldn't that have serious implications for the abortion debate?
                    In India lots of parents have their female children aborted already, as opposed to male children that are welcomed. It evidently creates a completely distorted society with an overabundance of men, in some rural areas complete villages are nearly devoid of women!

                    I'm not saying it's ethically right, but in this situation it might be ethically better to alter the gender, even if it has the same results as traditional abortions would have.

                    Besides that it'd be interesting to research, but foolish to implement. Nature provides us with close to 50/50 men/women; let's -for practical reasons- not mess with that.
                    "An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
                    "Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis." - Seneca

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Darius871


                      This is the most interesting part of the topic to me.

                      Wouldn't claiming it's unethical to alter the sexual preference of a fetus be premised on a violation of its rights as an individual? If so, wouldn't that have serious implications for the abortion debate?

                      With this issue, I guess I see a problem with using eugenics based on bigotry and ignorance as the motivation.

                      With abortion, I'm not sure what minority group is targeted by bigotry and ignorance. With the excpetion of when abortions are indeed motivated by such irrationality -- such as the case with female fetuses in India.
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by MrFun
                        With this issue, I guess I see a problem with using eugenics based on bigotry and ignorance as the motivation.
                        What difference does it make what motivation there is? The fact remains that you have no right to tell a woman what to do with her own body.
                        Unbelievable!

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Darius871


                          What difference does it make what motivation there is? The fact remains that you have no right to tell a woman what to do with her own body.

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                          • #58
                            *bump* above the copycat thread
                            Last edited by Darius871; January 6, 2007, 15:00.
                            Unbelievable!

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by b etor

                              my dad = homophobe.
                              ing any parent of yours

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                              • #60
                                aneeshm
                                "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                                I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                                Middle East!

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