Let us celebrate the official end of the multiculturalist experiment in Britain!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Ned
You have consistently steered left since I joined this forum.

I think it's cause I realized that "reality has a liberal bias".

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Well this one's been threadjacked to buggery.

[Ned]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

"Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to social control.

If you apply this definition blindly you have rendered the term meaningless through its broadness. According to it every modern political leader has been a socialist to some degree.



As with most political philosophies, socialism defies simple definitions.

Perhaps there are only shades of pink in Canada and Europe and to the Social Democrat, the Socialist is wrong -- wrong not in his objectives, but in his methods.

Republican ideology, in contrast, places its emphasis on individualism. However, we agree, consistent with classic liberalism, to help the unfortunate help themselves. What we do not see is that wealth is evil. Wealth is the reward of success to which every human should have the right to achieve on his own efforts.

A Republican would provide the poor Medicare, a form of insurance. The Social Democrat, the Socialist, and the Communist, would take over the health care system, forming it into a state monopoly, in the name of the poor. The state monopoly would then ration healthcare and otherwise provide bad service as do all monopolies. They, being the only buyer, would kill off independent medical research because they would kill the profits. In the end, the people would suffer mightily from the socialist by comparison to anything the Republican might offer in terms of health care.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


I think it's cause I realized that "reality has a liberal bias".

Are you now a card-carrying member?

[Arrian]

You'd be surprised just how far left American Dems are.

He says this to a Brit, to whom a "far left" US Democrat would probably look center/center-right.

Threadjacked to hell and gone. Heh.

-Arrian

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Gentlemen, please!

This is a thread on British Multiculturalism, not a definition of political parties in the USA.

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Well this one's been threadjacked to buggery.

The threadjacking will now cease, would all non-multiculturalism posts now be made here instead.

Originally posted by Ned
Republican ideology, in contrast, places its emphasis on individualism. However, we agree, consistent with classic liberalism, to help the unfortunate help themselves. What we do not see is that wealth is evil. Wealth is the reward of success to which every human should have the right to achieve on his own efforts.

A Republican would provide the poor Medicare, a form of insurance. The Social Democrat, the Socialist, and the Communist, would take over the health care system, forming it into a state monopoly, in the name of the poor. The state monopoly would then ration healthcare and otherwise provide bad service as do all monopolies. They, being the only buyer, would kill off independent medical research because they would kill the profits. In the end, the people would suffer mightily from the socialist by comparison to anything the Republican might offer in terms of health care.

See the other thread, linked above.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp

Hindus and Sikhs are successfully integrated precisely because they harbour no secret dreams of shaping British society to be like Indian society. They go with full awareness that they will have to adopt British culture

Which is why they all adopt the official state religion of Britain, and British dress codes, presumably. Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

The only difference is the lack of militants. That's it.

You've completely ignored Aneesh's valid and accurate point and spiralled off into your own assertion.

"Anything goes", as in imposing your cultural whims forcibly on others, is not multiculturalism. It's fascism. The difference, as I'm sure you'll appreciate, is crucial.

So asking for an acceptance of a democratic secular society is fascism?