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  • New York City passes trans fat ban

    And civil liberties continue to fall.
    I saw in another thread how government shouldn't be able to legislate what a person ingests. Guess what?

    Good or bad, right or wrong, about health issues, don't they have anything else to do?

    New York City passes trans fat ban
    Restaurants must eliminate artery-clogging ingredient by July 2008


    MSNBC News Services
    Updated: 29 minutes ago

    NEW YORK - The Board of Health voted Tuesday to make New York the nation’s first city to ban artery-clogging artificial trans fats at restaurants — from the corner pizzeria to high-end bakeries.

    The board, which passed the ban unanimously, did give restaurants a slight break by relaxing what had been considered a tight deadline for compliance. Restaurants will be barred from using most frying oils containing artificial trans fats by July and will have to eliminate the artificial trans fats from all of its foods by July 2008.

    Health Commissioner Thomas Frieden said recently that officials seriously weighed complaints from the restaurant industry, which argued that it was unrealistic to give them six months to replace cooking oils and shortening and 18 months to phase out the ingredients altogether.

    The ban contains some exceptions; for instance, it would allow restaurants to serve foods that come in the manufacturer’s original packaging.

    Trans fats are believed to be harmful because they contribute to heart disease by raising bad cholesterol and lowering good cholesterol at the same time. Some experts say that makes trans fats worse than saturated fat.

    The panel also passed another measure that has made restaurants unhappy: Some that chose to inform customers about calorie content will have to list the information right on the menu. The rule would generally apply to fast-food restaurants and other major chains.

    Trans fats are formed when liquid oils are made into solid fats by adding hydrogen in a process called hydrogenation. A common example of this is partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, which is used for frying and baking and turns up in processed foods like cookies, pizza dough and crackers. Trans fats, which are favored because of their long shelf life, are also found in pre-made blends like pancake and hot chocolate mix.

    The FDA estimates the average American eats 4.7 pounds of trans fats each year.

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who banned smoking in bars and restaurants during his first term, is somewhat health-obsessed, and even maintains a monthly weight-loss competition with one of his friends in order to stay slim.

    He has dismissed cries that New York is crossing a line by trying to legislate diets.

    “Nobody wants to take away your french fries and hamburgers — I love those things, too,” he said recently. “But if you can make them with something that is less damaging to your health, we should do that.”

    Many food makers have stopped using trans fats on their own, after the U.S. Food and Drug Administration began requiring companies to list trans fat content on labels.

    Taste just as good?
    Fast-food restaurants and other major chains were particularly interested in the board’s decision on Tuesday, because for these companies, a trans-fat ban wouldn’t just involve substituting one ingredient for another. In addition to overhauling recipes, they have to disrupt nationwide supply operations and try to convince customers that the new french fries and doughnuts will taste just as good as the originals.

    Already, McDonald’s Corp. has been quietly experimenting with more than a dozen healthier oil blends but has not committed to a full switch. At an investor conference last month, CEO Jim Skinner said the company is making “very good progress,” at developing an alternative, and vowed to be ready for a New York City ban.

    Wendy’s International Inc. introduced a zero-trans fat oil in August and Yum Brands Inc.’s KFC and Taco Bell said they also will cut the trans fats from their kitchens.

    Taco Bell worked for more than two years to find a substitute, conducting blind consumer taste tests and extensive research, the company said.

    Chicago is also considering its own trans fat law, which wouldn’t ban them outright but would severely restrict the amount that kitchens can use. The measure would apply only to large restaurants, defined as those that make more than $20 million in sales per year.

    New York’s move to ban trans fats has mostly been applauded by health and medical groups, although the American Heart Association warns that if restaurants aren’t given ample time to make the switch, they could end up reverting to ingredients high in saturated fat, like palm oil.







    Three years after New York City banned smoking in restaurants, health officials have voted to prohibit something they say is almost as bad, artery-clogging artificial trans fatty acids found in many fried foods.
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  • #2
    Transvestite fatties.
    Smokers.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #3
      Of all the civil liberties you're at risk of losing, this one worries you?
      Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
      -Richard Dawkins

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      • #4
        No, but when will you be concerned? When they outlaw Gays entirely?

        And civil liberties continue to fall.
        I saw in another thread how government shouldn't be able to legislate what a person ingests. Guess what?

        Good or bad, right or wrong, about health issues, don't they have anything else to do?
        Taking one makes taking others easier.
        Dispute that all you want.
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #5
          I smoke and I don't deserve a

          Actually asking for a cigarette often turns into a very good good good evening
          I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

          Asher on molly bloom

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SlowwHand
            No, but when will you be concerned? When they outlaw Gays entirely?
            Aren't they heading in the other direction, Slowwy?

            Gays lead more active lifestyles.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #7
              This is just a ban on a type of fat used in preparing foods. There are healthy alternatives. To say this is about civil liberties is retarded. Only a complete moron would say something like that.

              This is about banning a substance that is toxic. Yes, trans-fats are toxic! They don't exist in nature. They are artificially created chemical food additives that are used because they are cheap.

              If people want to go ingest a bucket of lard, that's their business. But it's perfectly reasonable to ban the use of a toxic substance in food preparation. This is not about regulating what kind of food people eat, this is about banning a chemical food additive, a specific fat and/or oil that contains such fats, used in food preparation. The same foods can be made using healthier alternatives.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Datajack Franit
                I smoke and I don't deserve a
                Yeah you do.

                But if it makes you feel better, you'd still deserve a even if you didn't smoke.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #9
                  Hurray for New York.
                  Resident Filipina Lady Boy Expert.

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                  • #10
                    If the FDA did their jobs, trans fats would be illegal in the US period.

                    JM
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jon Miller
                      If the FDA did their jobs
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #12
                        Sava, the point is, it's not the government's business? Can you follow that thought?

                        Asher. I understand that your only thought and concern is over gender preference.
                        I also realize that Gay rights are moving in a direction seemingly more accepting.

                        A) Drugs that are illegal in many places were once used and prescribed by doctors.

                        B) Smoking has been acceptable for ages.

                        C) Your attempt at witticism in your opening post, where you quip about trannies, shows how shallow you are in regard to anyone else's preferences.

                        D) You better hope this Gay Rights acceptance isn't a lure by Radical Conservatives to just lure you out in the open.

                        although

                        E) This thread has nothing to do with Gay; but thank you for illustrating once again that your whole life revolves around you and your gender preference.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand
                          Sava, the point is, it's not the government's business? Can you follow that thought?
                          No, because you are wrong.

                          Products containing trans-fats are shipped across state lines... interstate commerce. Thus, the government has every right to regulate or ban them. The fact that these are toxic substances being used in the production of food only goes to support the notion that they need to be banned... morally, not necessarily legally.

                          The constitution.

                          America, love it or leave it.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            TransFats != Gay Rights

                            E) This thread has nothing to do with Gay; but thank you for illustrating once again that your whole life revolves around you and your gender preference.
                            Err...you were the one who brought it up, Slowwy; but thank you for illustrating once again that your whole life revolves around you and your gender preference.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #15
                              Civil liberties? I think it should be banned when far less harmful alternatives can be used...
                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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