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  • #46
    Originally posted by laurentius


    None of us are. We are men enough not to get into wars anymore.

    Unlike the spoiled little sub-urbanistas who like to play war.
    I'm opposed to the Afghan mission but supporters here claim we are there because we have to be under our membership in the alliance.

    If other NATO members get a free pass I have to ask what the hell we're doing there.

    Is NATO finished?
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    • #47
      Originally posted by laurentius
      Yes it does.

      Credible defense


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      • #48
        Originally posted by laurentius
        Isnt this the same kind of attitude why France left OTAN in the 60ties?
        No. The French left because they were whiney *****es who felt slighted when NATO wouldn't accord them a special status.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Asher

          Afghanistan war is more than justified.
          Iraq? Of course not.

          Canada has nothing to do with Iraq.
          Sure but starting a major war because daddy was insulted instead of finding OBL and destroying the opium fields is reckless. Then pouring the **** to your nano-sized allies face is not pretty.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by laurentius
            Sure but starting a major war because daddy was insulted
            You're thinking of Iraq.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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            • #51
              Good. Ignorance prevails.
              I wouldn't want you to actually learn anything about it.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Asher

                You're thinking of Iraq.
                Yes.

                Go on....
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by laurentius
                  Yes.

                  Go on....
                  Iraq is not the same thing as Afghanistan. They are distinct countries.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                  • #54
                    Yes.

                    Go on...
                    Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                    - Paul Valery

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                    • #55
                      Iraqi no-fly zones conflict - Wikipedia
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_no-fly_zones


                      Page not found | Permanent Missions Permanent Mission to the United Nations
                      http://www.un.int/usa/sres-iraq.htm
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                      Become educated on the subject before voicing opinions.
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                      • #56
                        There is a strong link between Afghanistan and Iraq.

                        And only because George W. has made it so, first by words and then by action.

                        NATO is doomed in Afghanistan, we're not going to fare better then the Soviets. Whatever credibility we had has been squandered in Iraq.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by laurentius


                          Sure but starting a major war because daddy was insulted instead of finding OBL and destroying the opium fields is reckless. Then pouring the **** to your nano-sized allies face is not pretty.
                          = Going to Iraq for wrong reasons when you werent finished in Afghanistan was very naughty. Requiring your tiny allies to get killed for what is essentially your war/peacekeeping mission etc. is even naughtier.
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                          • #58
                            Or you can choose ignorance and become stupid instead.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by laurentius
                              = Going to Iraq for wrong reasons when you werent finished in Afghanistan was very naughty. Requiring your tiny allies to get killed for what is essentially your war/peacekeeping mission etc. is even naughtier.
                              Huh?

                              NATO is not in Iraq. This thread is about Afghanistan.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by SlowwHand
                                Or you can choose ignorance and become stupid instead.
                                yeah yeah, why dont you go watch TV or go get some fast food
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