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better they fight the war on their own territory, and make us look like idiots and make any future attempts at nation building and democracy promotion look like bad ideas.
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No, technically you did... as was shown after the invasion time and time again.Originally posted by SlowwHand
Hussein broke a Cease Fire. We had all the reason needed.
The only reason you should be there is humanitarian. But since that was never a priority in the policy you managed to screw that up also beyond repair."Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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Texans have a short and selective memory spanOriginally posted by DaShi
Whatever happened to nationbuilding?"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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TCO cutting and running, just like a chickenhawk - no wonder Iraq's a mess when people like him support the war!Originally posted by TCO
Mobius on ignore.
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
We're in a [strike]snake pit[/strike] quagmire.
"post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
"I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller
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@ MOBIUS
You're a complete, total dick.Comment
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In related news:
The UN released a statement that in oktober 3700 Iraqi's have died through violence. That makes the 133 mentioned in the OP more or less the daily average.
"post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
"I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon MillerComment
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Odd, since you were the one talking about occupying Sudan from you arm chair it is funny seeing you pull out the "chicken hawk" label.
But what do I know Modius, I only spent two tours or one year of my life over there."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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You are ignorant and full of crap.Originally posted by dannubis
No, technically you did... as was shown after the invasion time and time again.
The only reason you should be there is humanitarian. But since that was never a priority in the policy you managed to screw that up also beyond repair.
I'm not going to explain it to you. Go look it up.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
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and you have the brain capacity of a fly.
nowhere in the UN resolution you find that Sadam was in breach. You guys just turned it into that... after every argument you had on Sadams WMD program disappeared into thin air."Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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Not even taking into consideration Southern Watch, there is no UN official who agrees with you about whether Saddam was in breach of the UN inspection requirements. Nobody of consequence denies this."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Um. How could Saddam have been in breach of the inspections if the so called WMDs never existed in the first place?Originally posted by Patroklos
Not even taking into consideration Southern Watch, there is no UN official who agrees with you about whether Saddam was in breach of the UN inspection requirements. Nobody of consequence denies this.
But that is ancient history now. The US has spent around $500 billion and destroyed a once functioning and modern country. The least they could do is sacrafice a few more thousand troops and spend another $500 billion (better be quick before the USD is completely worthless) to put it back together again. You know, like they did in vietnam.
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First. There has been WMD's in Iraq and they have been used. Second. Due to this fact there has been suspicions about their continued existence, and the refusal of saddams regime to let UN check such existence lead to the war - NOT any claimed knowledge of their existence,Originally posted by Arcite
Um. How could Saddam have been in breach of the inspections if the so called WMDs never existed in the first place?
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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First, the WMD that were the reason of the invasion of iraq did not exist anymore (or at least after years of searching they have magically disappeared into thin air). And I distinctly remeber Powell saying in the UN security council saying the US knew they were there.
Second, that was the US's neocon governement's spin of the story. Every other person involved did not share that view. Otherwise they wouldn't have needed their coalition of the willing, no?"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."Comment
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Originally posted by Patroklos
But what do I know Modius, I only spent two tours or one year of my life over there.
Just because you've taken a direct part in killing people doesn't give you any more weight in saying whether that killing was just or not.
Otherwise, all murderers would be innocent.Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse
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