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  • #91
    Originally posted by lord of the mark


    No that would be the Canadians, who won the battle of Bladensburg without even a documented presence.


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    • #92
      Fascinating, that Canadians cant even tell the Battle of Chateuaguay from the Battle of Bladensburg
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      • #93
        Just pointing out that it wouldn't have been the first time in that war that US troops ran from a phantom enemy.

        On another note, I drive across the Raisin River every time I go home. "Remember the Raisin" runs through my head when I do so...
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        • #94
          Originally posted by KrazyHorse
          Just pointing out that it wouldn't have been the first time in that war that US troops ran from a phantom enemy.

          On another note, I drive across the Raisin River every time I go home. "Remember the Raisin" runs through my head when I do so...
          then youve misread your own cite. The enemy was real, they misestimated the numbers.

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          • #95
            Perhaps the American troops were psychic. Running from a much smaller force was usually a good idea for them. After all, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crysler%27s_Farm lay only a couple of weeks in their future...
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            Killing it is the new killing it
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            • #96
              Originally posted by KrazyHorse
              Perhaps the American troops were psychic. Running from a much smaller force was usually a good idea for them. After all, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crysler%27s_Farm lay only a couple of weeks in their future...
              and per your cite/site, that was against a body of largely british regulars, not mainly Canadians. Now again, I say, what really makes the Canadians the biggest badasses on the planet is that they won battles they werent even present at. Bladensburg is a MUCH better example than Crysler Farm, where there were at least SOME Canadians. I suspect the Bladensburg anomaly is explained by the Canadian use of stealth nation technology, which prevented their troops from being observed.

              Israel could certainly make do with such tech, since they are too present in the news.
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              • #97
                Just because Canadians are not always fighting somewhere, it doesn't mean they aren't badass. Or even that they are avoiding the good fights.

                There just hasn't been much reason for them to go and fight lately.
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Pekka
                  Just because Canadians are not always fighting somewhere, it doesn't mean they aren't badass. Or even that they are avoiding the good fights.

                  There just hasn't been much reason for them to go and fight lately.
                  whoosh!
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Pekka
                    Just because Canadians are not always fighting somewhere, it doesn't mean they aren't badass. Or even that they are avoiding the good fights.

                    There just hasn't been much reason for them to go and fight lately.
                    When I was in the service, the Canadias snuck into our camp one night and just sort of made themselves at home for a few minutes before our guys figured out what was going on. One of them calmly walked into the Command Post and read the frequency setting off the radio out loud. The operator was so surprised that he just nodded and confirmed that yes, that was the correct setting. They even could have stolen one of our tanks, but they settled for starting the engine and revving it a few times before fading back into the shadows.

                    Of course, our officers where somewhat less than happy the rest of that night and through most of the next day.
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                    • So your saying Canada is little that guy its like a Kung-fu movie with that who dosn't look tough and at first dosen't do any fighting but then suddenly starts kicking major ass.
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                      • But wait, there's more!
                        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                        • Isn't bumping old threads for no reason against site policy?

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                          • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                            Only a fool would believe the U.S. bombed the embassy accidentally. The old maps excuse was a total lie, since even on the old maps, the buildings weren't what the CIA claimed they were. The embassy, however, was rebroadcasting Serbian military channels, and so might be considered a legitimate military target, since they were engaged in an act of war.
                            As long as they don't broadcast commands to military units, they're not a legitimate military target (even if you forget for a moment that it's an embassy and so it's a sovereign territory of another country).


                            For example:
                            Israel/Lebanon
                            Deliberate destruction or "collateral damage"? Israeli attacks on civilian infrastructure

                            Israeli forces have repeatedly targeted Hizbullah’s al-Manar television station, for example with three strikes in as many days from 14 July. The transmitters and relay stations of several other Lebanese television stations have also been attacked. According to the IDF: "Al Manar has for many years served as the main tool for propaganda and incitement by Hezbollah, and has also helped the organization recruit people into its ranks. Hezbollah operates undisturbed from within Lebanon, and constitutes a severe terrorist threat to the people of Israel and to IDF soldiers." An IDF official told Amnesty International delegates that al-Manar was being used for military communications, but failed to provide any evidence to support this claim when questioned.

                            The fact that al-Manar television broadcasts propaganda in support of Hizbullah’s attacks against Israel does not render it a legitimate military objective. Only if the television station were being used to transmit orders to Hizbullah fighters or for other clearly military purposes could it be considered to be making "an effective contribution to military action". Even then, Israel would need to take required precautions in attacking it and choose a manner aimed to avoid harm to civilians. Amnesty International is not aware of claims by Israel that the other stations were performing military functions.
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                            • The fact that al-Manar television broadcasts propaganda in support of Hizbullah’s attacks against Israel does not render it a legitimate military objective.



                              This is a dubious claim and a stupid one at that.

                              Al-Manar is a recuitment and propoganda tool for Iran and Hezbullah.

                              Al-manar is clearly a communications weapon and not a civilian infrastructure - as it has absolutely no relation to the Lebanese government authorities - nor does it carry any important role in, say, civilian defense or what ever.

                              Only if the television station were being used to transmit orders to Hizbullah fighters or for other clearly military purposes could it be considered to be making "an effective contribution to military action"



                              I'm glad that the years of military tactics researched which Amnesty engaged in, are finally paying off. I'll be happy to pick up Amnesty's "doctrine of warfare" once it's on the shelves.

                              Until then, I'll rely on older respected warfare doctrines.

                              Hurting an enemy's resolve using psychological operations and via hurting its communications and propoganda assets was ALWAYS a part of warfare, and continues to this day.

                              If al-Manar allows a speech by Nasralla to reach people and to instigate further warfare escalation, it is then by definition, a communication medium.

                              I'll be happy to hear about any major army doctrine publication, which supports your claim regarding enemy communications and propoganda tools.

                              Also, I would like your response on the following matter:

                              BBC Russian service FM broadcasts off air in Moscow

                              By Michael Stott

                              MOSCOW (Reuters) - The BBC said on Friday that its Russian-language FM radio broadcasts in Moscow had been off the air since November 24 due to unexplained "technical difficulties" at its local partners.

                              The BBC said it had no information to suggest that there was a political motive for the break in transmission.

                              Overall relations between Britain and Russia have soured markedly over the past year and took a major dive after the poisoning of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, who died in London last month.

                              BBC FM radio services in Russia's second city St Petersburg also went off air on November 13 but resumed on December 1, the BBC World Service's Head of Media Relations Mike Gardner said in a telephone interview.

                              "We have no further information on the nature of these technical difficulties and are therefore unable to speculate on their causes," Gardner added.

                              The BBC's broadcasts can still be heard in Russia on medium wave and via the Internet.

                              The British embassy in Moscow said it was aware of the BBC's problems. "It is important that the BBC continues to operate in Russia," an embassy spokesman said.

                              "The BBC World Service provides a balanced and independent source of information, which is important in parts of the world where that is not otherwise available".

                              Almost all Russian broadcast media have come under tight Kremlin control during Putin's rule, with coverage heavily slanted in favour of the government. Opposition figures complain they are almost entirely excluded from regular coverage.

                              The BBC claims around one million listeners in Russia. It does not break that figure down by city but says Moscow is a "very important part" of the total Russian audience.

                              Although the BBC is editorially independent, World Service broadcasts are almost entirely funded by the British government.

                              Britain's granting of political asylum to high-profile enemies of the Kremlin and its support for independent NGOs operating in Russia have irked Moscow, while a Russian campaign against Anglo-Dutch oil company Royal Dutch/Shell and BP has provoked anger in London.

                              The radiation poisoning in London last month of Litvinenko, who had acquired British citizenship, created further tension.

                              Litvinenko accused President Vladimir Putin in a deathbed statement of ordering his murder, a charge strongly denied by Moscow.

                              Even opponents of Putin in Moscow consider direct Russian government involvement in Litvinenko's death highly unlikely because of the damage it has done to Russia's image abroad.

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                              • Well, the point is that if i have a choice which opinion is more important about if it's allowed to attack it according to international law, i'll believe an international organization that is defending human rights rather than some unknown forum lurker. So, your opinion is meaningless as long as you can't prove that they're wrong.

                                Also, you probably want to say, that we don't have a free Mass Media in Russia. Well, i know it as well. So what? I'm perfectly fine without it. As i already said, i don't watch official media anyway because they'll always be biased. Your supposedly free mass media is full of bull****, propaganda and double standarts, obvious even to a 5-year kids (i can read it as well thanks to internet), so i don't see any difference between western media and russian media. Yes, i know, it's "free" and ours isn't "free". You may name it as you wish. It's like with your so called "democracy" thing. You have a true "democracy" and we have a wrong "democracy". Still, Putin has (and always had) 70%-80% support while Bush (for example) has about 30% or so (i'm not sure about recent values though). Here ends your rhetorics, our democracy is actually better no matter how you'll spin it
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