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  • I don't know about that episode.

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    I didn't like the Earth music used, since it seemed too much of a contrivance.

    I felt like they continued their tendency to blow their load entirely too early, like a teenager suffering from abnormally premature ejaculation. Starbuck coming back not two episodes after her "death"? Like the New Caprica affair, the Roslin Cancer affair, the Baltar Trial affair and so on, they get something interesting, and then write it out faster than you can say "frak".

    Which makes me happy that at least Roslin's cancer came back.

    Apollo, who seems to have been becoming more and more of an irritating, annoying dickwad since S2's Black Market, had a really good speech in that last episode--it almost redeems him, though I dislike the courtroom shenanigans. The objection the prosecution had was that he could make points that ought to be found in closing arguments--all well and good, except after his big speech... no closing arguments.

    That said, the Baltar trial left me sorta dissatisfied as well, in that now I don't know how much further his character has to go. He's also turned into a messiah-type figure for crazed women, which makes me hope that he gets assassinated, if only to really hammer home how bat**** he was/how crazy his followers are; if they turn him into a Cylon, however, I shall be truly displeased.

    As far as the final five, I don't mind two of the four revealed. Tigh's the most interesting thing of the bunch, because it means the humanocylons have been around forever, for at least 40-60 years--long enough to make a close bond with someone like Adama. Plus, it's cute with the Three/D'Anna Biers possibly recognizing him and apologizing.

    That's why I don't mind Tyrol being one, either--he's been around awhile, allowing him to be close to Adama, and somewhat interesting, particularly in the light of his having been with the Eight formerly known as Sharon Valerii. I'm kinda disappointed, though, in that now there's potentially another hybrid baby.

    With another hybrid baby, there's even less reason to give any story time to the Agathons, who seem to be increasingly relegated to the back burner.

    Tory's a stretch. She's close to Roslin, but her appointment to that position seemed more to be luck than anything, so it's kinda shaky; we also don't have much established about her backstory at all.

    Anders is the one that bugs me. It's very, very, very much a stretch to have him organize a resistance group after having been an athlete, running into Starbuck, starting a relationship, losing the relationship, and so on. He's not even that important in the grand scheme, unless one thinks of a good cop-bad cop routine with Leoben Conroy, but even then, that's a very weak link. I'm disappointed by this choice--it seems like they were casting about for someone to make interesting by turning them into a Cylon, and him and Tory (though I'm not as irked with her) got the nod.


    So... I'm mixed on this one. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt, but this episode makes me quite nervous about the future direction of where this show is going.
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    • Just an observation I made watching tonight's re-air: I looked closer at the ending zoom sequence and noticed the departure point of our POV and the re-entry point and they looked to me to be about 10,000-15,000 lightyears apart (our galaxy is at most 110,000lyrs in diameter, some estimate as little as 80k), though someone elsewheres on Teh Intertubes has speculated the writers used the real-life Eagle Nebula as the basis for the Colonials' Ionian Nebula. That could place them as close as 7,000lyrs from Earth. I tried follow his reasoning, but I'm just not seeing it; the colors and shapes are all wrong. Did the Ionian Nebula strike a familiar cord in any of you that have looked at NASA/Hubble pictures of nebulas? A Wikipedia listing of nBSG terms places the Ionian Nebula some 13,000lyrs from the algae planet.

      *sigh*

      Ultimately it's probably all just meaningless, especially since we have no idea of their stellar cartography and the distances they've traveled since the attacks, but it opens a couple of plot device options, like wormholes or alien intervention on Starbuck's behalf. Oh, and it still flashed by too quickly for me. I wasn't able to make out lights on the NA west coast or ANY signs of civilization. Bah.
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      • Looking forward to seein this episode nonetheless.

        Season three has been a mixed bag, and I hope this finale does something to provide some thrills.

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        • I hate you all because German TV is light years behind
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          • Originally posted by curtsibling
            Looking forward to seein this episode nonetheless.



            agreed,just dont ruin another song
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            • Originally posted by DRoseDARs
              Just an observation I made watching tonight's re-air: I looked closer at the ending zoom sequence and noticed the departure point of our POV and the re-entry point and they looked to me to be about 10,000-15,000 lightyears apart (our galaxy is at most 110,000lyrs in diameter, some estimate as little as 80k), though someone elsewheres on Teh Intertubes has speculated the writers used the real-life Eagle Nebula as the basis for the Colonials' Ionian Nebula. That could place them as close as 7,000lyrs from Earth. I tried follow his reasoning, but I'm just not seeing it; the colors and shapes are all wrong. Did the Ionian Nebula strike a familiar cord in any of you that have looked at NASA/Hubble pictures of nebulas? A Wikipedia listing of nBSG terms places the Ionian Nebula some 13,000lyrs from the algae planet.

              *sigh*

              Ultimately it's probably all just meaningless, especially since we have no idea of their stellar cartography and the distances they've traveled since the attacks, but it opens a couple of plot device options, like wormholes or alien intervention on Starbuck's behalf. Oh, and it still flashed by too quickly for me. I wasn't able to make out lights on the NA west coast or ANY signs of civilization. Bah.
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              • I loves mapses. Physical geography, stellar cartography, it all fascinates me.
                The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                • Maps are pretty neat
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                  • Originally posted by Platypus Rex



                    agreed,just dont ruin another song
                    I just couldn't get my head around Hendrix playing during a Cylon attack.

                    Not exactly how I want my planet represented, by a damn hippy...!

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                    • Originally posted by curtsibling

                      I just couldn't get my head around Hendrix playing during a Cylon attack.
                      Are you sure it was Hendrix? It didn't sound like his version, or at least the one I'm familiar with.

                      I never heard Bob Dylan sing it, so I don't know if it was him.
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                      • Goddamn hiatus

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                        • Originally posted by Lord Avalon

                          Are you sure it was Hendrix? It didn't sound like his version, or at least the one I'm familiar with.

                          I never heard Bob Dylan sing it, so I don't know if it was him.
                          Dylan originally wrote the song, but the cover of the song in the episode was made by BSG's composer Bear McCreary, with his brother singing vocals.

                          Does anybody have a clue about how the new dylan cylons are different from the other cylons like six. Like why how the dylan cylons could here the music but the other cylons couldn't.
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                          • Originally posted by flash9286

                            Dylan originally wrote the song, but the cover of the song in the episode was made by BSG's composer Bear McCreary, with his brother singing vocals.
                            Good! Not Hendrix!

                            Does anybody have a clue about how the new dylan cylons are different from the other cylons like six. Like why how the dylan cylons could here the music but the other cylons couldn't.
                            Do we know the other cylons don't hear music? Or they do, but they never "played" anything on the show. They do see virtual environments, so I suppose that could have music.
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                            • Season four has some interesting questions to answer.

                              I have a feeling those 'beings of light' from the old series are making a return.
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                              • Originally posted by flash9286


                                Dylan originally wrote the song, but the cover of the song in the episode was made by BSG's composer Bear McCreary, with his brother singing vocals.

                                Does anybody have a clue about how the new dylan cylons are different from the other cylons like six. Like why how the dylan cylons could here the music but the other cylons couldn't.
                                Bear. How cool is that for a name?
                                I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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