The Muslim response to the Pope remarks finds its inevitable expression

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by molly bloom



Gosh, aren't you harsh on your own threads and posts!


Saves me mocking you.

It's called "honesty" .

A generalisation is a language tool , which works with a certain degree of precision . You're griping because it does not fit your requirement of precision . But as I'm the thread starter , and it fits mine , your griping is irrelevant .

Originally posted by molly bloom

Shouldn't that be :

though, Mr. Polytheist ?

Originally posted by Elok
I believe he said in another thread (the God and sin one) that he's a monotheist.

I can be called a monotheist in the best sense of the term - I believe only God is .

And even now , I'm not sure whether or not I believe in God ( irrespective of whose God we're talking about ) . I'm an agnostic leaning towards non-dualism .

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by aneeshm




A generalisation is a language tool , which works with a certain degree of precision .

Which evidently you lack....

In any case I'm not griping, simply pointing out that you generalised about Muslims in your thread title, and then went back on yourself by saying :

I'm not , of course , saying that all Muslims are complicit in this

which rather contradicts your description of 'the Muslim response', when in fact there have been different responses from different people in the global Muslim communities.

But as I'm the thread starter , and it fits mine , your griping is irrelevant .

That's lovely for you, but as I'm not 'griping' but just noting your ability to vary your argument accordingly, your rejoinder is both irrelevant and inaccurate.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by molly bloom

Which evidently you lack....

I lack the ability to make generalisations ?

Originally posted by molly bloom

In any case I'm not griping, simply pointing out that you generalised about Muslims in your thread title, and then went back on yourself by saying :




which rather contradicts your description of 'the Muslim response', when in fact there have been different responses from different people in the global Muslim communities.

The Muslim response refers to the most visible response from the most visible members of the Muslim community . OK now ?

Originally posted by molly bloom

That's lovely for you, but as I'm not 'griping' but just noting your ability to vary your argument accordingly, your rejoinder is both irrelevant and inaccurate.

Vary my argument ? Where precisely did I do that ? You'll find that everything I have said in this thread is techincally consistent .

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by molly bloom




Dr Strangelove


I think you mean Mehmet Ali Agca:

http://crime.about.com/od/murder/p/db_agca.htm

It seems unlikely given the timing that Islamic radicalism was the motive behind the assassination, especially when a high-profile Pope from Eastern Europe was annoying the Kremlin mightily with his support for Solidarity, Uniate Ukrainian Catholics and his overtures to the Eastern Orthodox Churches.

Mehmet though was a muslim, a small minority in Bulgaria. He was apparently disgruntled with discrimination against muslims in Bulgaria, but took it out on the Pope.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


Mehmet though was a muslim, a small minority in Bulgaria. He was apparently disgruntled with discrimination against muslims in Bulgaria, but took it out on the Pope.

He was born in Turkey, not Bulgaria, and fled to Bulgaria partly because of his politics and partly his criminal activities.

Religion doesn't seem to have been a motivating factor.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by aneeshm


I lack the ability to make generalisations ?

No, you lack

a certain degree of precision

.

As I said, you keep generating these threads with sweeping statements about Muslims, as if somehow all Muslims in the United Kingdom, India, Asia, the world acted or thought the same way about politics or their religion.

It should be patently obvious that they don't.

The Muslim response refers to the most visible response from the most visible members of the Muslim community . OK now ?

Firstly, the media often focuses on self-appointed spokespersons for 'the Muslim community', usually the most 'radical' and loud-mouthed and unrepresentative and secondly, this of course represents confirmatory bias on your part- it fits in neatly with your previous characterisations of Muslims and Islam, so you use it as the supposedly paradigmatic response of 'the Muslim community' as a whole.

Vary my argument ? Where precisely did I do that ?

A memory lapse so soon ?

Your thread title states explicitly:

'The Muslim' response

and when questioned about this misrepresentation, apparently you actually meant to state that :

I'm not , of course , saying that all Muslims are complicit in this

Both misleading and inconsistent then.


You should enter politics with such evident skills of prevarication and obfuscation. I'm sure the B.J.P. may have a suitable vacancy....

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by molly bloom


He was born in Turkey, not Bulgaria, and fled to Bulgaria partly because of his politics and partly his criminal activities.

Religion doesn't seem to have been a motivating factor.

I seem to recall listening to a translated interview with him shortly before he was released in which he discussed his anger with Christians and westerners for what he perceived as their interference in muslim affairs, such as supporting Israel. He claimed to have repented. You'd think that a mercenary would have at least had the common sense to get a down payment before embarking on a hit, yet he didn't seem to have any money.