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  • #31
    Originally posted by lord of the mark
    I could go on, but I dont think its really necessary, is it?
    Indeed
    "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
    "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
    "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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    • #32
      Religion is poison.
      Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
      Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
        The vatican should start a nuclear program
        Is it not enough that they have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?
        Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin
        Iain Banks missed deadline due to Civ | The eyes are the groin of the head. - Dwight Schrute.
        One more turn .... One more turn .... | WWTSD

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        • #34
          The HHG was already used. And we don't know how many rabbits AQ might have...
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          • #35
            Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't there already been an attempt by a muslim to assassinate the Pope? OK, different Pope and it was a couple of decades ago, but still, was there an apology by the muslim hierarchy?
            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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            • #36
              Yes

              they apologized for not succeeding
              “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

              ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Elok
                The HHG was already used. And we don't know how many rabbits AQ might have...
                But surely it is replenished through divine logistics.

                Hmmm... cave...rabbit... LOOK AT THE BONES!

                Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't there already been an attempt by a muslim to assassinate the Pope?
                Resulting in the incarnation of the bulletproof Popemobile.
                Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin
                Iain Banks missed deadline due to Civ | The eyes are the groin of the head. - Dwight Schrute.
                One more turn .... One more turn .... | WWTSD

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                • #38
                  Would God allow the incarnation of a nuclear shield over the Vatican (Iran's is awfully close to Italy)?
                  I'm not buying BtS until Firaxis impliments the "contiguous cultural border negates colony tax" concept.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand
                    That is ironic, isn't it?
                    he he

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by aneeshm

                      I'm not , of course , saying that all Muslims are complicit in this . But the point is that a large enough number of Muslims support things like this for it to be a problem .

                      You are when you state things like:

                      The Muslim response to the Pope remarks finds its inevitable expression
                      in your thread title.


                      'The Muslim' response ?

                      As far as I'm aware, no one Muslim has the right to speak for all other Muslims. Islam operates differently from, say, Roman Catholicism.

                      You mention the political wing of an admitted terrorist group, as if somehow, we should be shocked at the response from the public mouthpiece for a group that openly espouses violence!

                      We've had quite enough experience of that over here with the I.R.A. and Sinn Fein and Protestant paramilitary groups.



                      Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't there already been an attempt by a muslim to assassinate the Pope? OK, different Pope and it was a couple of decades ago, but still, was there an apology by the muslim hierarchy?
                      Dr Strangelove


                      I think you mean Mehmet Ali Agca:

                      Agca was involved in crime since youth. In his teens he was a member in various street gangs and got his training in petty crime. Later he made money as a smuggler between Turkey and Bulgaria then moved on to Syria where he was received weaponry and terroristic tactical training which he claimed was funded by Bulgaria.
                      In 1978, while working with a far-right extremest group, the Turkish Grey Wolves, Agca killed Abdi Ipekci, the editor of a left-wing newspaper. He was caught, tried, and sentenced to life in prison but managed to escape in November 1979 and fled to Bulgaria.

                      A self-proclaimed mercernary, Agca was quoted as saying he was willing to perform any crime for the right price. Soon after his arrival in Bulgaria he claimed to have been contacted by the Bulgarian Secret Service who offered him over $3 million to kill the Pope because of the Pope's support of the Poland Solidarity movement. He also claimed that once in Rome, the assassination plot was led by Zilo Vassilev, then the Bulgarian military attache in Rome.

                      Many doubt the accuracy of Agca's story and feel that his real motive for trying to killing the Pope was never disclosed.



                      It seems unlikely given the timing that Islamic radicalism was the motive behind the assassination, especially when a high-profile Pope from Eastern Europe was annoying the Kremlin mightily with his support for Solidarity, Uniate Ukrainian Catholics and his overtures to the Eastern Orthodox Churches.
                      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Jaakko


                        So for you the only problem with Muslims extremists is that they worship the wrong god?
                        I think the problem for him is that they aren't all dead yet.
                        He's got the Midas touch.
                        But he touched it too much!
                        Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by molly bloom



                          You are when you state things like:



                          in your thread title.


                          'The Muslim' response ?

                          As far as I'm aware, no one Muslim has the right to speak for all other Muslims. Islam operates differently from, say, Roman Catholicism.
                          For the love of God , it's a generalisation , and thus inaccurate , as all generalisations are bound to be !

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by aneeshm


                            For the love of God , it's a generalisation , and thus inaccurate , as all generalisations are bound to be !

                            Gosh, aren't you harsh on your own threads and posts!


                            Saves me mocking you.


                            Shouldn't that be :


                            For the love of Gods
                            though, Mr. Polytheist ?
                            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                            • #44
                              I believe he said in another thread (the God and sin one) that he's a monotheist.
                              1011 1100
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                              • #45
                                How do I know he wasn't generalising then, too ?


                                Since Hinduism have the distinctly monotheistic component and it also has many deities it should be called monotheistic polydeitic religion.



                                Well, that's certainly clarified a thorny subject.



                                "We're deities, not gods, m'kay ?"
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                                ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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