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  • #46
    If the guy hadn't confessed, they wouldn't have begun rioting. Some incentive to come clean.
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    • #47
      In latin america liberal means conservative, and neo liberal means neo con
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      • #48
        Can someone look up when exactly did the Americans start misusing the word liberal to mean, basically, some kind of socialist. I know it's that way now, but I don't know when did the switch from the original meaning happen.

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        • #49
          So is the gov't going to resign or what? Wouldn't seem possible to continue under the circumstances.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #50
            Another question, if I may. At first, I thought these striped flags were US flags, as were used in the protests in Georgia, etc. But on closer inspection, these flags are not US flags. Can somebody explain what this flag represents?
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            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Colon™
              If the guy hadn't confessed, they wouldn't have begun rioting. Some incentive to come clean.
              I was under the impression that it was a secret speech to some party members that got leaked to the public.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by DanS
                Another question, if I may. At first, I thought these striped flags were US flags, as were used in the protests in Georgia, etc. But on closer inspection, these flags are not US flags. Can somebody explain what this flag represents?
                Red & white stripes have long been a flag & symbol for Hungary. See the coat of arms for example:

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Blaupanzer
                  Neo-cons are mostly reformed (disillusioned) new leftists from the sixties era who jumped ship and went way over to the right.
                  Er, no. Many of them (like Irving Kristol) were old leftists from the 40s, especially Schactmanites, a branch of Trotskyism that hated Stalinism more than most, who by the '50s had become social democrats, and spent the '60s fighting the new left, and went over to the right by 1980. Others, like Jeane Kirkpatrick, were never Trotskyites, but started as social democrats. Others were centrists or Humphrey-Jackson dems from the start (like Richard Perle). The only one I can think of who was actually a '60s new leftist is David Horowitz, whos not really typical. Theyre hardly in favor of big govt by historical American, let alone Euro standards, but are less hostile to it than libertarians and some other "paleocons" see Irving Kristols "Two Cheers for Capitalism"
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by VetLegion
                    Can someone look up when exactly did the Americans start misusing the word liberal to mean, basically, some kind of socialist. I know it's that way now, but I don't know when did the switch from the original meaning happen.
                    In the 1930s essentially. The liberal movement IIUC in europe gave rise to two tendencies, one more pro corporate, one more driven by smaller businessmen and professionals, the latter more interested in welfare state and alliance with the working class - thus Asquith vs Lloyd George Libs in the UK, National Liberals vs Progressives in Germany, Liberals vs Radicals in France. Each was flanked still - a Conservative movement still traditionalist, and a working class based Social Dem movement. Which tended to cause both liberal tendencies to shrink.

                    In the US the working class never managed its own successfull party, but was mainly incorporated in FDRs progressive but bourgeois party. In the absence of genuine traditionalist-conserv party, the pro-business republicans were called conservatives, and the word liberal was left for the New Deal Progressive- Soc Dem alliance.
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                    • #55
                      Thanks.

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