Pope angers muslims

[VetLegion]

That's a pretty baseless generalization about muslims Brachy-Pride

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Originally posted by cronos_qc
@Brachy-Pride

I do think that the media in these country are not helping the situation. By creating "sensational news" about something that is rather innocent.

And some manifestation that I have seen have been made by around 10 to 100 men!!!

One things for sure, the religious, and civil authority are using these situation for their own interest.

yes

when muslims burn buildings, it's the media's fault How dares the western media provocate them in such a way

[Barnabas]

Actually, I didnt write that correctly, what I meant is, why must the west treat them like that and not mature men?
Isnt that paternalistic, saying we must be careful because they are "special"?

[CrONoS]

@VJ

Do I say Western Media? Al Jazaarah are fueling their polls by making this "no-news" or academic discussion into a really 'shocking' news story.

And about the manifestation, that I have seen on tv, was rather small(Pakistan excluded). And 1-2 guy throwing molotov cocktail into a church is different than 1000 guys burning a church!!

[Pekka]

Well, I have to take back some words in a way or be more descriptive here, I was not talking about the whole community and people. That would be ignorance. Talking about the fundies, who mostly seem to be living in the hotbeds of the world. THe people we see in pictures and news of course.

And it seems that to those people, no one even has to say anything for them to get upset, and it's always the fault of someone else, because they were provoking and trying to hurt feelings.

This is not being sensitive, this is asking for blood and it's a whole different set of mind and the only thing that is able to command it is force.

[One_more_turn]

I agree that Islam a violent religion of peace.

[Terra Nullius]

Send them cluster bombs from Jesus!

[VetLegion]

This forum is mildly anti-Islamic. I want to distance myself from that:


anti-islamists <----------------------------------------> me.


There

[Pekka]

Mildly would be a fair assesment I guess. You can say that it is a bit anti-Islamic, because to be fair, if we were talking about other entity here with these words, we'd have folks pulling out the racist card from the first post onwards.

In that range of what we think is anti-something, yes, mildly anti-islamic sentiments are obvious.

THe best way to determine the lack of perspective is for you to distance yourself now by stating your'e not part of this group and see who attacks you with the assumption that you are pro-islam and pro-islamic countries, and that somehow that is against the rest of us. This is a case example of bi-polarized thinking, and I've said this for years now, that it is the bi-polarized thinking that will ultimately prove the stupidity and lack of intelligence of the human race, even more so now because we have the means of communication, we can interract, we can go out there and see, hear and get a point of view based on that. But we don't. We do passive research, what Eddie Izzard says, and you let the information come to you. That was a joke, a cruel joke about stupid people, and unfortunately when I say this, msot would ask 'so what is wrong with that?'. This is because they will never get it.

I've said numerous times that I have views that are leftist and views that are right wing and that's why I refuse to dance with parties, because what they do is strengthen the bi-polarized view of everything. Against us, pro-something... I have the right to not be on that spectrum for it is only a model of thinking for people where only their opinion can fit and everyone else is either for it or against it. You know, like nazis and idiots, and definitely retards who were at the same time nazis, which meant they killed themselves because they were retards and nazis didn't like that. With a conviction, but still, idiots, and they sometimes think that yes we are idiots, but at least we have conviction. Conviction of being idiots? Great amplifiers of the stupidity for sure. 'Yes I'm a serial killer but at least I'm a damn good one'. Be proud.

This was all a scramble to say that you don't have to be against or for islam to have a say, it's a religion. If you can have a neutral view on buddhism or javentalutros, why not islam?

[VetLegion]

Well, if a hundred people would jump "hurrah" at the prospect of getting free money from someone, I'd distance myself just to be different

You can think about Islam whatever you want. I never judge people based on that alone. They need to tell me their favourite beer too.

[Pekka]

Yes. And as you prolly noticed, I never said a word against Islam. I never took any stand on the religion itself.

[VetLegion]

You mean you thought about saying you hate Islam, but held back at the last moment? OK.

[Pekka]

Are you stupid? How the hell did you come to that conclusion? Were you raped constantly as a child?

[VetLegion]

Huh, if you like muslims, why aren't there any in Finland? Case clear.

[Pekka]

Are you serious? First of all, there are muslims in Finland. Second of all, I don't even have an opinion about muslims. They are people. You are extremely excellent at interpreting things with your own glasses and bias of other people.

I haven't said a single thing about what you're now saying. Quite the contrary, I paid you a compliment with my latest long post, it was complemeting you. How did you miss that?! And you proved me wrong by now making statements what I was talking against, that is categorizing thoughts with bi-polarized view, that YOU clearly have it seems.

I'm not only disappointed at what you have just said in last few posts, but you implicate that my country and myself in the same train are racists and we hate muslims.

You sir are the greatest biggot I have seen in a while, go pat yourself in the back. I don't even want to talk with you now so don't expect a reply to your biggoted posts. I don't feel like debating or discussing with you.