Nintendo Wii: $250, Nov 19

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Asher

Nintendo's marketshare has steadily fallen over the past two generations.

In that respect, it is a failure.

It does turn a profit, though that profit is getting smaller -- especially on the home console front.

Compared to the incredibly successful Xbox that doesn't turn a profit at all, clearly Nintendo is a failure.

[Asher]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Compared to the incredibly successful Xbox that doesn't turn a profit at all, clearly Nintendo is a failure.

To simpletons that don't understand the market or why marketshare is important than small-ish profits at the formation of major future markets, I can see why some people think that.

Others understand the importance of building the brand and establishing a toehold in the living room.

Or if you still want to focus on profits, look at how the profits are trending. Nintendo's profits for the home console market are trending down, Microsoft's are trending up...

Which would you rather invest in?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Thats a bit of an unfair characterization. Nintendo is losing market. MS was breaking into a market dominated already by two players Sony and Nintendo. To expect MS to turn exorbitant profits while attempting to take market share is a bit naive. I would venture while shareholders may be dissapointed with the financials MS has done fairly admirably cracking the market and is poised (if not already) to become the leading gaming supplier.

MS and Sony have upped the ante with latest offerings. While the Wii looked at first brush to be a departure from the market strategy employed by these two companies in that Wii would be a lower end system and priced accordingly the system appears priced at so minor a difference as to be meaningless. Therefor the attractiveness of the system relies solely on the strength of the game offerings. A decided disadvantage at this late juncture for Wii.

edit - crossposted with Asher

[RGBVideo]

OTF has started to learn your tricks, Asher

Originally posted by Asher
Well, so much for Nintendo winning.

That's a lot of money for such a weak system. This will become more of an issue as HDTVs continue to become more popular very quickly...

1.7/10

[Asher]

It's true. Nintendo has priced themselves out of a niche market they could've had.

[Elok]

I'd still rather get a Wii than a 360. Smash Brothers > anything I've heard of that MS is offering. Huck Falo!

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Elok
I'd still rather get a Wii than a 360. Smash Brothers > anything I've heard of that MS is offering. Huck Falo!

* The Wii box in Japan will include: Wii, remote with strap, nunchuck attachment, power cord, AV cable, stand, sensor bar and stand, and batteries.
* Apparently Japanese gamers will not get a pack-in game, but the US pack is expected to have Wii Sports bundled.
* Wii Sports will sell for the knock-down price of ¥4800, and include Baseball, Tennis, Golf, Bowling, and Boxing.
* Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess will sell for ¥6800 Yen and will be a launch title.
* Ten companies will be providing software at launch, and the Wii will launch with 16 titles in Japan. Full launch list here, and a nice movie preview here.
* 24 companies have signed on to provide games for the Virtual Console, including Sega, Hudson Soft, Tecmo, Atlus, Capcom, Bandai Namco, and Square Enix.
* 30 downloadable virtual console games are expected on launch.
* Famicom virtual console titles will retail for 500 yen ($4.25), Super Famicom titles for 800 yen ($6.81) and Nintendo 64 titles for 1000 yen ($8.51).
* Standard Wii software will retail for between ¥4800 ($40) to ¥6800 ($58).
* Consumers will be able to buy prepaid cards with Wii points on them (or just use their regular credit cards), those points will be used to purchase the virtual console games, very similar to Xbox Live's points system.
* The nunchuck and the classic controller attachment will both sell for ¥1800, but there will also be a bundle with the classic controller and 5000 Wii Points for ¥5000.
* The version of Opera for the Wii will be much more advanced than the DS Version, and will support popular technologies such as Flash.

[Jon Miller]

I have a question.. is Twilight Princess the GameCube game they announced a decade ago?

JM

[Kuciwalker]

Yes. It's being released for GC too.

[Jon Miller]

Cool, when he has played that my freind will sell me his GameCube I think.

I have Resident Evil 4 for it right now (one of the best consol games ever..).

JM

[asleepathewheel]

can't wait to get a wii.

Frankly, I'm more interested in interesting gameplay and fun than super-realistic graphics. But what do I know, I'd rather play an emulated snes game than a ps2 game, other than sports titles.

[ixnay]

I cannot wait for a Wii.

I'm preordering this thing as soon as I can.

$250 is more than I was hoping but it's still cheaper than the other two consoles and I'm more impressed with the announced games for the Wii.

[Asher]

Fo shizzle, Wii Sports games >>>>>>>>>>>> Madden/2K Sports.

[Jaguar]

It's still called the Wii.

[Kuciwalker]

Is not.