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 I'm confused why so many people can look forward to the Wii games.
 
 The 1st-party Nintendo games for the Gamecube sucked ass. Super Mario Sunshine really sucked, no matter how many deluded Nintendo fans say it doesn't.
 
 This is a company that thought "Wii" was a really good name -- and you guys trust them to be so in touch so as to develop a game that is fun?
 
 Nintendo of today is nothing like the Nintendo of the late 80s and 1990s."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
 Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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 3 words: Super Smash Brothers.Originally posted by Asher
 I'm confused why so many people can look forward to the Wii games.
 
 The 1st-party Nintendo games for the Gamecube sucked ass. Super Mario Sunshine really sucked, no matter how many deluded Nintendo fans say it doesn't.
 
 This is a company that thought "Wii" was a really good name -- and you guys trust them to be so in touch so as to develop a game that is fun?
 
 Nintendo of today is nothing like the Nintendo of the late 80s and 1990s.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
 AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
 AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
 DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF
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 Kirby is the Praetorian of SSB.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
 AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
 AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
 DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF
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 They charge 250€ for a CONTROLLER (going to break itself the first time you drop it) you can use to play Mario games I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly. I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
 
 Asher on molly bloom
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 Mario 64 had charm and innovation. Mario Sunshine lacked charm, had oodles of cornyness (and not in the fun way), relied on a lame gadget, and generally felt half-assed. Plus it only had a single real locale...Originally posted by Kuciwalker
 The 1st-party Nintendo games for the Gamecube sucked ass. Super Mario Sunshine really sucked, no matter how many deluded Nintendo fans say it doesn't.
 
 Sunshine was Mario 64 with updated graphics. It therefore cannot possibly suck.
 
 Oh, and a QFT @ LordShiva."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
 Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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 Of the announced 1st party Wii games I'm looking forward to these:
 
 Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - the two N64 zelda games were fantastic and this one looks to follow in those footsteps
 
 Metroid Prime 3 - The new control scheme looks good and the first two games were excellent Metroid games
 
 Super Smash Bros. Brawl - for obvious reasons
 
 WarioWare: Smooth Moves - Mostly because my coworkers are all getting Wiis and this looks like it's going to be a great party game. The GCN Warioware was incredibly fun with a large group.
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 Metroid Prime 3: CorruptionOriginally posted by Asher
 I'm confused why so many people can look forward to the Wii games.
 Super Mario Galaxy
 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
 Red Steel
 Trauma Center: Second Opinion
 Super Smash Bros. Brawl
 
 Yeah, I can see no reason what so ever for people to look foward to Wii games.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
 For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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 I don't know why people look forward to xbox360 and ps3 games that involve virutally no innovation beyond better graphics. Been there, done that. I want a different gaming experience, and I think Wii will provide that.Originally posted by Asher
 I'm confused why so many people can look forward to the Wii games.
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 Me neither. Of those you listed, Super Smash Brothers is the only game likely to be passably entertaining -- but even then, only as a party game.Originally posted by DinoDoc
 
 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
 Super Mario Galaxy
 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
 Red Steel
 Trauma Center: Second Opinion
 Super Smash Bros. Brawl
 
 Yeah, I can see no reason what so ever for people to look foward to Wii games.
 
 The Metroid Prime games were hugely overrated. The only reason they're so well-received is they're shining gems of excellence compared to 99% of the crap on the Gamecube."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
 Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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 I'm all for innovation, but gimmicks ain't innovation. The Wiimote is such a gimmick.Originally posted by asleepathewheel
 I don't know why people look forward to xbox360 and ps3 games that involve virutally no innovation beyond better graphics. Been there, done that. I want a different gaming experience, and I think Wii will provide that.
 
 Innovation can be unlocked by more powerful hardware that allows more to be done in the game. There are games we can do now that can't be done on the NES or a C64.
 
 Just like there will be games that can be done on the Xbox 360 or PS3 that can't be done on the Wii.
 
 All Wii games, however, can be done on the 360 and PS3. Even the Wiimote games can easily be countered by a similar gyroscopic/motion-sensitive controller that can be connected via the USB ports or controller ports on both consoles.
 
 The Wii is more limited by design, which stiffles innovation.
 
 You want simplistic, easy to design games? That's what Xbox Live Arcade is for. Any kid in his basement can make games for the Xbox 360, and that's going to provide more innovation than a motion-sensitive controller that appears to be frustrating to use."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
 Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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