Attributes of Manhood

[Pekka]

aww crap, why don't you get all sentimental now and cry like men!

No. Real man knows one thing overrides everything. Real man knows, that he has only one thing in this world. That one thing is his word. Everything including honour, friendship, integrity etc derives from that one single thing. You keep your word and that's the bond you have with yourself. You know it's more valuable than anything, and to be a good man is something that will be known around the block, thus you will be given respect and other things, for free.

Your word is your spirit and name. Hey, even pigs and worms have kids, that doesn't make them men. However, there are several ways to break you being a man, which would be being a bad parent.

There are defaults, so if you fall into those traps, then you're a bastard.

However, avoiding these traps doesn't make one a man yet.

The word is the bond and the only REAL commodity MAN has. And it is valued and if you just follow that, it will be noticed. This is something you have to do, some default things can be accomplished even by being passive so I don't think those alone makes someone deserving.

Even a bad man can still be a man.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Try reading Pekka's post again, but every time he uses "word" replace it with "penis". It makes more sense that way.

[Dis]

I don't want to threadjack, but it kind of falls in line with this thread.

What are the attributes of a father?

being a father scares the hell out of me.

[Pekka]

Laz, my work here is done

[Dinner]

Banana.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Flubber


Well enjoy your "personhood"



IT is . By definition talking about what it is to be a man means making a distinction based on sex, hence sexist.

So what ?

I make such distinctions based on sex all the time. Heck I have even been known to refer to men and women differently, using such inherently sexist words as "he" or "she".

you call people he or she? Shame on you. You are a bad ma... I mean bad person.

[Sava]

None of the above.

Strength of character/will.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Kidicious
I'm opposed to the idea of "being a man." I think that people who try to do that are constrained by societal and familial expectations. I think it's sexist.

What a stupid post.

Who would of thought the idea of "being a man" would be "sexist"? Well of course it is because it is defining the characteristics of a particular gender, the very definition of "sexist".

However, what does that have to do with societal or familial expectations? What's wrong with someone having an original thought for an answer? And for that matter, why the negative attitude towards defining "being a man"?

I hate these kind of reactions that I hear a lot of left-leaning people give. Why is it such a bad thing for men and women to have such ideals? Men and women have different roles in society because they are different! Why is this so hard for many people to just accept? Just because men and women are different doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated equally. But there can be equal treatment without this sort of bull**** uberpolitical correctness of "ZOMFG THATS SEXIST" reaction when talking about things like gender roles.

I mean, geez.

I grew up in a home where my mom went out and made more money than my dad because he suffered a disability. He recovered, but my mom ended up being the primary income earner. But she still was the "mom". She still made dinner and did everything. Now my dad is retired and her career is going great.

But why is it wrong for men (and women) to have specific (and different) ideals to aspire to (many of the ideals are shared by both, but some perhaps more important for each gender)? Men and women are not the same!

[Snotty]

all this talk talk about keeping your word reminded me of this

02/07/05 | Reuters
LONDON (Reuters) - A Welsh rugby fan cut off his own testicles to celebrate Wales beating England at rugby, the Daily Mirror reported Tuesday. Reuters Photo Geoff Huish, 26, was so convinced England would win Saturday's match he told fellow drinkers at a social club, "If Wales win I'll cut my balls off," the paper said. Friends at the club in Caerphilly, south Wales, thought he was joking. But after the game Huish went home, severed his testicles with a knife, and walked 200 yards back to the bar with the testicles to show the shocked drinkers what he had

I guess an attribute of manhood is this story making you feel a bit uncomfortable

[Dis]

This can't be serious. cutting the balls off will cause massive blood loss. I can post BME pictures if you want. . though I doubt the mods will like that.

I'm thinking some guys get into their sports a little too much.

[Dis]

what are the attributes of womanhood? I'd make a thread on it, but 2 copycat threads isn't likely to fly. I'm surprised they didn't close my other one.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
Great feedback all, thanks Mr Fun

you're welcome

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Sava
I grew up in a home where my mom went out and made more money than my dad because he suffered a disability. He recovered, but my mom ended up being the primary income earner. But she still was the "mom". She still made dinner and did everything. Now my dad is retired and her career is going great.

According to society he is not a man.

But why is it wrong for men (and women) to have specific (and different) ideals to aspire to (many of the ideals are shared by both, but some perhaps more important for each gender)? Men and women are not the same!

All people are different, not just men and women. People should be themselves, not what society pressures them into being.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Flubber
IT is . By definition talking about what it is to be a man means making a distinction based on sex, hence sexist.

We aren't talking about definitions. We are talking about societal pressures to conform.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Dis
I don't want to threadjack, but it kind of falls in line with this thread.

What are the attributes of a father?

Damned if I know. .. . and I've been one for 3 years. Seriously though I see my role to be a teacher and provider. I just want to provide a safe and secure environment for my son and future kidlet to grow and learn. I want them to learn, not just skills but a fundamental respect for other people balanced by the strength to stand up for what is right.

Will we succeed? All we can do is try as best as we can.