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    "Friends" of Hillary are saying she might pull out of the '08 presidential race and instead be head of the Dems in the Senate.

    This could be an offer from the Dem gray beards to Hillary to drop her bid in order for the leadership of the Senate. They must think she's toxic. With friends like that...

    But I think it's ridiculous to not wish her to run. She's a disciplined politician who is the class of the Senate. All you lefty Dems who don't want her to run are gutless, IMNHO (licks chops). I don't have a dog in this race. and neither like nor dislike Hillary.

    Of course, you could wonder why this offer would be made in a Brit paper, instead of a party organ like the NYT.

    The Sunday Times - World

    The Sunday Times September 03, 2006

    Friends of Hillary hint she may pull out of presidential race
    Sarah Baxter
    FRIENDS of Hillary Clinton have been whispering the unthinkable. Despite her status as the runaway frontrunner for the 2008 Democratic nomination for president, some of her closest advisers say she might opt out of the White House race and seek to lead her party in the Senate.

    The former first lady longs to return to the White House with husband Bill as consort. Only last week she told television viewers America would be led by a woman one day. “Stay tuned,” she said.

    First, however, she has to win the election. Some Democratic party elders — the American equivalent of the Tories’ “men in grey suits” — say Clinton may back out of the race of her own volition.

    “I would not be surprised if she were to decide that the best contribution she can make to her country is to forget about being president and become a consensus-maker in the Senate,” said a leading Democratic party insider. “She believes there is no trust between the two political sides and that we can’t function as a democracy without it.”

    As senator for New York, Clinton has forged alliances across party lines with leading Republicans such as Senator John McCain and Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House of Representatives. In the eyes of the electorate, however, she is a potentially divisive figure.

    A recent poll for Time magazine showed that 53% of the electorate said they had a favourable impression of Clinton and only 44% viewed her negatively, figures that President George W Bush can only dream of at the moment. Even so, 53% of independent voters said they would not vote for her.

    “The prospect of a Hillary for President campaign has put much of the Democratic establishment in a bind,” Time concluded. “The early line is that Hillary would be unstoppable in a Democratic primary but unelectable in a general election.”

    The solution, insiders say, is for Clinton to take over as Senate minority leader in 2009 from the lacklustre Harry Reid, senator for Nevada. One well-respected blog, The Washington Note, recently claimed that Reid privately told Clinton the job was hers if she gave up her presidential ambitions.

    Reid’s office denied it, but the claim made its way into the Los Angeles Times where it was suggested she would make a “superlative Senate leader” while keeping her options open for the 2012 presidential race.

    Clinton has raised a whopping $33m for her Senate re-election campaign in New York, which is likely to result in an emphatic victory for her in November. The leftover sums can be switched to a presidential bid. The size of her war chest is a sure sign that she intends to be ready to campaign at full tilt the moment she presses the “go” button.

    Her final decision is likely to be made next spring. One close friend of the Clintons said: “There is no way she won’t run for president.” According to a member of “Hillaryland”, her close-knit inner-circle, she would be letting herself and her supporters down if she declined to take a shot at the White House.

    Others are not so sure. If she balks at the presidency, “she can win a huge amount of goodwill by donating her money to colleagues in the Senate,” another associate said.

    Terry McAuliffe, the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee and a close friend of the Clintons, believes she will be able to see off all challenges in primary elections should she stand. “She is very tough and very determined. Nobody is going to think she is not strong enough on national security. If she decides to run, clearly she will have the necessary resources and she will give people reasons to vote for her.”

    Among them, McAuliffe believes, will be former President Bill Clinton. “He is a gigantic asset. He is probably the most popular politician in the world.”

    On one subject, Clinton’s friends are united. They all believe that Bill, her closest adviser, wants her to go for it.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    I don't want her to run for president. I want the democrats to win with their most liberal candidate, so I can say, Yeah, you dumb sonsof*****es. You wanted it, here it is."
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    • #3
      Misdirection!
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #4
        Re: Hillary for President

        Hmmh, a story based on an indirect rumor with no direct sources mentioned and you wonder why the rumor has been mentioned in the NYT.

        The real question is why did the LA Times print the rumor (assuming it did).
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        • #5
          Times of London, not the LA Times.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            At the risk of feeding the troll...

            I have two objections to HRC being the democratic candidate, neither of which particularly stems from my being a liberal. First, I deeply dislike the current trend towards hereditary presidency. The point of a democracy is that everyone could be president, and the more the presidency stays in the hands of two familes (if HRC wins, it could be from '92 to '16), the less democratic it feels.

            The second reason is pragmatic. HRC didn't make a lot of friends as first lady, and would head into the general election with a pretty massive number of strong unfavorables. This isn't the vague feeling that Kerry was somehow "electable," and all his faults as a candidate should be overlooked. This is solid polling data.

            As a liberal, I object to HRC being the nominee because I don't think she stands for anything. Howard Dean wasn't a good politician, and probably would have lost worse than Kerry, but you could never doubt that he stood for something. With HRC, its hard to tell.

            Earlier this summer, I was at a progressive caucus that she spoke at. Her speech was not very specific, but implied not only that she had been leading the progressive movement since '92, but that she behind basically the entire progressive platform. The thing is, she didn't, and she isn't. Since then, she has contradicted much of what she said to us that afternoon. Her political stance seems to change depending on her audience. Now, some might say that is the mark of a good politican, and they're probably right. I'm just sick of that kind of politics.
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            • #7
              Yeah, I've said it before and I'll say it again: No one that has been paying at least a little attention wants her to run for the WH. I hate to say it, but I'd rather Gore run. I voted for Nader in '00 because I didn't want to vote for a Republican president (little did we know how awful he would be...) and Gore seemed tainted by Bill's presidency and also seemed a weak character. He has since grown up; maybe '08 is his time to shine...

              Frankly, I'm interested more in who the GOP is going to run. There don't seem to be many Republicans who aren't tainted by this administration and its congressional cronies and cheerleaders.
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              • #8
                Some other Dem for President, Hilary for Attorney General.

                I want every Republican to spend every waking moment after January 2009 thinking "Hilary's got the PATRIOT Act...Hilary's got the PATRIOT Act..."
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                • #9
                  Mark Warner

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                  • #10
                    FRIENDS of Hillary Clinton have been whispering the unthinkable.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DanS
                      Times of London, not the LA Times.
                      Uhm no. I was referring to the British reporter claiming that the LA Times wrote about the rumor, which is offered as proof that the rumor must be a real rumor as oppose to a rumor the reporter heard down at the pub.

                      British newspapers are much more likely to print the latest rumor they heard from someone's friend who heard it from the friend or an important person. Newspapers like the NYT are less likely to report unsubstantiated rumors heard third hand.
                      Last edited by Tingkai; September 3, 2006, 06:51.
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                      • #12
                        So... how many years until presidency goes outside the few and only families? Just thinking....
                        In da butt.
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                        • #13
                          Just as soon as we amend the US Constitution so that instead of electing our president (well, electing electors that select the president...) we have a lottery where the next president is selected at random, kind of like jury duty.
                          The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

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                          • #14
                            Full public financing of elections would give more ordinary folks a shot at running, plus, abolish primaries and institute IRV.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DRoseDARs
                              I hate to say it, but I'd rather Gore run.
                              Gutless.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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