Disturbing Christian material . . . . . . . .

[Jon Miller]

I was just expecting him to say something about so and so sort of Christianity, and then having to tell him that different people who have schools beleive in different things..

JM

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
*to my knowledge Jehova's Wintnesses are Arians (Spelling?), ie, they don't believe that Christ was divine (which, based upon what is traditionally called Christianity, makes them no more Christian than Muslims).

I might have that wrong, they don't beleive in the Trinity, however.

JM

[Elok]

I prefer the term "pharisee" to describe this sort of believer. All of the letter of the law, none of the spirit. I guess "orthodox Christian" isn't too bad as a label, but it's just a capitalization away from identifying the brimstone crowd with my faith (as has been observed in this thread already). Which I do not take kindly to.

[Odin]

I swear these fanatics are going to start a civil war in this country if they do not get what they want by the ballot box. Be afraid, be VERY afriad.

[Apocalypse]

Everyone has things about them that they can't share with peers in order to fit in. Getting this early just gives them practice.

[Barnabas]

Aneeshm , all christian are not like that, in fact that is a very small group.

For example, catholics , who are a lot more than half of the worlds christians, accetp tradition (church fathers), and papal writings of faith and morals to be as authoritative as the bible , so in this church catholics (most world christians) would be considered counterfeits
for claiming another authority outside of the bible.

[CrONoS]

Brachy is right.

These are people who their writing are considered authoritative.
St Augustine
St Thomas Aquinas
Roger Bacon

Note the last two were also considered heretic in their times, but fastly rehabilited. And St-Augustine was at first a lawer(if i'm right) he became manichean, after he became neo-platonician and after this he became christian. (By the influence of his mother and one bishop, who I do not remember his name).

Edit:
I'm wrong about Roger Bacon; the church never said that his writing are authoritative.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Oerdin
My understanding is that only the most fundimentalist Protestants believe the Bible is infallible while the other Christian groups view the Bible as a work of man which was inspired by God. Meaning that people can misunderstand God and right things which are incorrect.

And fundalmentalists Catholics.

[Barnabas]

No, catholics believe the bible was inspired by God, and only the Church can "infallibly" interpret it.

That means that everyone else (you, me, protestants, etc) can read the bible and get it wrong

[Lonestar]

Mel isn't a "real" Catholic, he doesn't recognize Vatican2.

[Barnabas]

Yes , he is a schismatic (from a roman catholic point of view)

From his point of view the catholic church hprobably has been coopted by masons or something like that.

[Elok]

Masons? I'd've figured Jews. Or Englishmen. Or English Jews.

[PLATO]

The all seeing eye knows all.

[notyoueither]

Jewish English directors of the Masonic order.

[MRT144]

I need to know more about the history of the Indian civilization before I can discuss this.