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Originally posted by Asher
Look at the default Opera 7 interface...
Look at the default Opera 7 interface...
Man, you are cheap... Even from a FF-fanboy I expected better
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Man, you are cheap... Even from a FF-fanboy I expected better
Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
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Are you saying you liked the Opera 7 interface?“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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It's to illustrate the lack of a clue the developers of Opera have. Interface-wise they're just copying Firefox now.Originally posted by Q Cubed
Y'know, if you're going to pull screenshots from deprecated software, should we be *****ing about how IE4 and Netscape 4 are terrible, security-wise?
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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No, but it didn't take a rocket scientist to tweak it.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Are you saying you liked the Opera 7 interface?
What I oobject about is using an old version of a program to diss the latest version. I would love to see the spasm our local MS fanboy would get in to when someone starts ranting about XP and using Win95 screenshots.
But hey, be as happy with Firefox as I am with Opera...Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
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Whatever you say baby...Originally posted by Asher
It's to illustrate the lack of a clue the developers of Opera have. Interface-wise they're just copying Firefox now.Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
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Opera 7 is just 3 years old -- it's an example of the crappy interfaces they had for 7 versions until Firefox's popularity.
Because of Firefox, Opera stopped charging for a webbrowser and overhauled their hideous interface (which still needs work). I'm not sure what the point is of using a browser that's just playing catchup to the real deal."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by Hueij
Whatever you say baby...Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
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Uh....Originally posted by Hueij
What I oobject about is using an old version of a program to diss the latest version. I would love to see the spasm our local MS fanboy would get in to when someone starts ranting about XP and using Win95 screenshots.
[q=Asher]They seem to have no concept whatsoever of usability design and user experience. They develop nifty things and keep throwing things in a big pile and leave it at that. It's not until Firefox came and kicked ass that they started to give usability some thought. [/q]
Hence, using an old version to critique the interface design of the company before competition in the small browser marker made them shape up.
Just because it is God ugly doesn't mean you have to get mad at Asher for making a valid point.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Who cares who's copying whom? Firefox does plenty of copying from Opera and I don't see you complaining about that. I just want to have the best possible product.Originally posted by Asher
It's to illustrate the lack of a clue the developers of Opera have. Interface-wise they're just copying Firefox now.
I think both browsers are fine. But they're different. Some people prefer one, some people prefer the other. Luckily, we can choose.
Fine, you don't like Opera's interface, I can see that. But that's your opinion and has nothing to do with usability.Originally posted by Sn00py
As a webdeveloper, I instantly saw the same problem Asher see's - the Interface for Opera is horrible.Comment
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I could use Opera, but FF's shortcut keys are trained into me.Comment
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Yes, it does. Opera 7 and below are virtually textbook examples of poor HCI design, 8 and 9 are better but still need work.Fine, you don't like Opera's interface, I can see that. But that's your opinion and has nothing to do with usability.
This isn't an opinion as much as understanding usability design of interfaces."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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Just because it is God ugly doesn't mean you have to get mad at Asher for making a valid point.
It's a screenshot from Opera 7 for god's sake!
Anyways, I really don't care what Asher says. Like I said, be happy with Firefox and let me be happy with Opera.Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
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Yeah, THAT'S THE ****ING POINT! Before FF's ascendancy in the small browser market, Opera didn't care about making a decent interface. Competition did its job here in forcing Opera to make a more FF-ish interface.Originally posted by Hueij
It's a screenshot from Opera 7 for god's sake!“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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I've got real player installed, I don't understand what the problem is. It's very simple to set a new defult player, and what do I care if someone who doesn't know me knows what I'm watching/listening to. What are they going to do with this information?Comment
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Man, this is my last post in this thread, or Asher must say something stupid again...
From Asher's first post in this thread:Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yeah, THAT'S THE ****ING POINT! Before FF's ascendancy in the small browser market, Opera didn't care about making a decent interface. Competition did its job here in forcing Opera to make a more FF-ish interface.
As for switching to Opera, that is a personal choice -- kind of like driving a Lada. Personally, I can't stand Opera's interface...
It looks to me he started talking about Opera Version Now and in later posts crawled back to his position of "Hey, Opera Pre 8 sucked donkeyballs and now they are copying Firefox"
[insert a remark about a poster, not the subject]...[/insert]Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
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