Sectarian break-up of Iraq is now inevitable, admit officials

[GePap]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
We didn't stay divided, obviously, Ozzy Had a little throw down. You might remember it, went by the sname, Teh Civil War

There were no national or secterian rifts.

Yugoslavia never got put back together, now did it?

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by GePap


Yugoslavia never got put back together, now did it?

That would be the worst reunion concert ever.

[SlowwHand]

Look at their cars, for their worth. Wait a minute. Do they still make them?

[CrONoS]

Have a question:

Does anyone know if in middle or long term, Hezbollah (who are pro-shia and Iran financed) can become associated with the Shia insurgent in Iraq? By helping them to take control of the country and using Iraq for their own interest?

Does anyone know what are the tie between Iran government or clerics and the Shia of Iraq?

Thank you,

[SlowwHand]

http://www.usip.org/pubs/specialreports/sr156.html

[CrONoS]

Tx Sloww

To this extent, the role of the most powerful man in Iraq, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, is a critical variable. Sistani, who was born in Iran but has spent most of his life in Iraq, enjoys the support of the Iranian government; yet he believes that while clerics should exert political influence, they should not run the country. This view is also held by the Shiite Dawa party in Iraq, whose leader, Ibrahim al-Jaafari, is the country's interim prime minister.

In the same text, it's says that while Sistani do not want to meet U.S. diplomats, he is meeting several Iranian top political figures.

[CrONoS]

One possible scenario:

If I understand well; if U.S.A. choose to attack Iranian nuclear facility, they will have to face a growing opposition from the Shia of Iraq. And they are risking of loosing their control over Iraq government.

[CrONoS]

So before september 11, 2001. According to this text, Iran was sharing the same ennemy than U.S.A.!!! Iraq and Afghanistan.

ran faces a paradox concerning recent U.S. intervention in the region. Prior to September 11, 2001, Iran's two most immediate enemies were Saddam Hussein's Iraq and the Taliban who controlled Afghanistan. Iran fought a bitter eight-year war with Iraq and suffered horrendous casualties, including those from chemical weapons attacks. The war ended in 1988 with Iran agreeing to a humiliating cease-fire and an awareness that it had lost the war, in part, because of its isolation from the rest of the world. In the late 1990s, it nearly went to war with Afghanistan over the murder of nine of its diplomats in Mazar-e Sharif in August 1998 by a Taliban-controlled militia. The assassinations occurred against a backdrop of violence along the Iranian-Afghani border stemming from Afghani drug trafficking. During this period, Iranian officials' greatest fear was that Pakistan's leadership would eventually become “Talibanized”—if, for example, the Musharraf government were overthrown by younger, more radical military officers sympathetic to the Taliban and its philosophy—and that they would face an extremist Sunni regime with nuclear weapons on Iran's border.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by cronos_qc


So before september 11, 2001. According to this text, Iran was sharing the same ennemy than U.S.A.!!! Iraq and Afghanistan.

Yup. It's FUBAR.

[Gatekeeper]

Hmm. I wonder if the Shiite-dominated areas of a former Iraq would become provinces of Iran, or if they'd simply form a puppet state of sorts, permanently locked in Tehran's orbit.

Gatekeeper

[Barnabas]

I remeber reading on the news a few years ago, of Iran putting all their troops on the afghan fronteer, like, ready to attack, to scare the taliban.

Whats the meaning of fubar btw?

[Thedrin]

F'ed up beyond all recognition.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Stop it. You made me think that Slaughtermeyer posted something sensible.

I made the same mistake too in the WWI thread.

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Yea but it isn't like we decided to divide and then violence broke out later. Nor was the country divided in an attempt to avoid violence.

Wasn't there a great deal of ambivalence about invading the CSA prior to Fort Sumter?

[Darius871]

Originally posted by cronos_qc
Does anyone know if in middle or long term, Hezbollah (who are pro-shia and Iran financed) can become associated with the Shia insurgent in Iraq? By helping them to take control of the country and using Iraq for their own interest?

Moqtada al-Sadr announced he had created Iraqi chapters of Hezbollah during his April 2004 insurrection (link), but nothing came of it. Whatever Hezbollah influence he allowed was, is, and will continue to be dwarfed by the Mahdi Army.

[BlackCat]

@Elok : This site are seriously missing an :irony: smilie