Middle East Continued Again...

[Wezil]

Gee, I was just standing in the middle of the highway and a car struck me. Stupid driver should have seen me.

[BeBMan]

If you were the driver and had the chance to stop - would you still run your car over the guy?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by BeBro
If you were the driver and had the chance to stop - would you still run your car over the guy?

Sure I would but I wouldn't blame the driver if ultimately said nob was hit by a car.

I know it is fashionable on these boards to dump on Israel but to imply they intentionally killed UN troops is just plain silly.

[BeBMan]

I didn't say anything about intention.

And if you would blame the driver or not wouldn't change a thing - if he crashes into someone standing there while he could have avoided the crash he is responsible.

[Wezil]

If he could have avoided it. Safer bet would be for the pedestrian to get the hell off the road.

South Lebanon is currently a war zone. The UN mission was a failure before the current hostilities began.

Maybe the UN should use some judgement and get their people out of the way.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Is this like the usa bombing the chinese embassy in serbia?

I don't know. Did the US shell the embassy for 6 hours straight, ignoring 10 calls, and shelling the rescue team?

[SlowwHand]

[Spiffor]

Indeed, laugh, because it is hilarious.

[Chemical Ollie]

All killings are on purpose. If you risk hitting the wrong person, you should not shoot.

Israel is well known for killing UN staff in Lebanon without giving a damn. My buddy have personally carried a body bag containing a Swedish guy who were killed in the 90´s.

But the UN guys volontered to get their ass on the line, so it's not something I would lose too much sleep over. More disturbing is the 100's of dead civilians.

[Chemical Ollie]

DP

[BlackCat]

six hours of shelling the area before they manage to hit the UN post - didn't know the israelis was so lousy when aiming. Any reports about large concentrations of women and children that could have been the real target ?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by BlackCat
six hours of shelling the area before they manage to hit the UN post

They hit the UN post with a precision missile.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Indeed, laugh, because it is hilarious.

Why expect any better from Sloww...?

He supports the Israelis - ergo he doesn't give a flying **** about the lives of innocent people...

Earlier, the United Nations general secretary, Kofi Annan, accused the Israeli military of carrying out a sustained bombing of the UN base on the Lebanon-Israel border that culminated in the killing of four unarmed monitors.

Mr Annan said he had suggested to the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, that they carry out a joint investigation into the events that led to the shelling of the "well-established and well marked" Unifil (UN interim force in Lebanon) post in the town of Khiyam.

"I spoke to Mr Olmert and he definitely believes it was a mistake and has expressed his deep sorrow, " Mr Annan told a press conference in Rome. "But the shelling started in the morning and went on until after 7pm. You cannot imagine the anguish of the unarmed men and women peacekeepers who were there."

The four monitors came from Austria, Canada, China and Finland. Tonight, European Union and Chinese officials condemned the attack as "unacceptable" and the Irish government filed an official complaint to Israel after its senior UN peacekeeper made half a dozen warning calls over the bombings.

Jane Lute, the assistant secretary general for peacekeeping, told the UN security council that the base came under close Israeli fire 21 times - including 12 hits within 100 metres and four direct hits - from 1.20pm until contact was lost with the four peacekeepers inside at 7.17pm.

Ms Lute said the peacekeeping force had protested to the Israeli army after each firing incident. The UN's deputy secretary general, Mark Malloch Brown, and Ms Lute herself also made several calls to Israel's mission to the UN "reiterating these protests and calling for an abatement of the shelling", she said.

After contact with the base was lost, Unifil then won safe passage for two armoured personnel carriers to evacuate the position, she said. They arrived at 9.30pm "and found the shelter collapsed and major damage to the rest of the position". Despite negotiating safe passage, the APCs also came under Israeli attack, Ms Lute said. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????

The 2,000-strong Unifil force, which sits on the Israel-Lebanon border, has suffered dozens of attacks and direct hits in the two-week conflict.

No-one in their right mind could possibly conceive that this could be anything but intentional!!? It was a combined arms attack FFS!

The only possible defence that Israel has is that it was gross incompetence and sheer blind negligence - but that is no defence whatsoever because it exposes the IDF as blindly blasting away at anything that moves whether it is surrounded by women or children or not!!!

Wezil: Without the UN around to observe (first hand it seems!) the callous disregard even for its own positions - the IDF would have carte blanche to commit atrocity after atrocity (moreso than now!) and certainly wouldn't be 'holding back' as it is now...

But then you failed to address my earlier points than covered your questions...

Also, little known fact about Hezb siting their stuff around civilians: Oftentimes they (Shia) are siting next to Sunni habitations - of course they don't care about civilian casualties, they're getting Israel to do their dirty work for them!!! So not only is Israel killing civilians - they're likely killing the wrong civilians in many cases...

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Spiffor

They hit the UN post with a precision missile.

Yep. That happend after six hours bombardment where they didn't hit it. Was that the first precision missile used in this ? I doubt it.

[Pekka]

Indeed a huge f-up. Israel needs a pretty good PR-campagn to get this thing over with, since it has lost _lots_ of support at least in here, mostly because we do regard UN as the top dog, even though not a lot of you do, we do, plus our officer got killed in that 'accident' so.. basically that's the aftermath.