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  • #16
    Originally posted by chegitz guevara
    [Q] Originally posted by Lancer
    It's very simple, we attack Iran, the Iraqi Shi'ites revolt and kick our ass outta Iraq.
    No...very simply. We have not begun to exercise the conventional power that we could over the Iraqis. We tred very lightly due to political concerns. There is absolutely zero chance that the Shi'ites could "kick our ass outta Iraq" if we had the political will to stay.

    There was a time when Iran may have provided that will for the U.S. Now I am not so sure. I sure hope that peaceful change in Iran can come about...
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    • #17
      You misunderestimate the effect of having no secure areas. Every unit would be surrounded by hostiles and cut off. Sure, we'd slaughter on a biblical scale, but we'd still be overwhelmed and defeated.

      Imagine Blackhawk Down with no where to escape to.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by chegitz guevara
        You misunderestimate the effect of having no secure areas. Every unit would be surrounded by hostiles and cut off. Sure, we'd slaughter on a biblical scale, but we'd still be overwhelmed and defeated.

        Imagine Blackhawk Down with no where to escape to.



        Not hardly.
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        • #19
          Wide open plains/deserts are pretty easily defended against AK-47s and C4-filled Coke cans IIRC. We'd be kicked out of many or most cities certainly, but whether we'd leave Iraq would be a matter of domestic politics.
          Last edited by Darius871; June 22, 2006, 22:06.
          Unbelievable!

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          • #20
            I agree with PLATO. It seems by Che's pov that the left hasn't learned anything about the US military. They projected what? 10,000 dead US forces going in to Iraq? 20,000? ...and of course they had the 4th largest army in the world and they would defeat us.

            Che, not to worry. Plus, all they have to do is open enlistment to ex military up to 60 years old and a million guys like me would pull on the boots and hold Iraq while the younger guys took the fight to Iran.

            USA.

            Regarding the Turks, it's just an idea I believe would work. The Turks could benefit and the US could move on. The iraqis would be better than under Saddam and would have fellow moslems in control. Do they hate the Turks because of the Ottomans? I tend to doubt it. I don't think they were slaves under the Ottomans, but part of an empire. Am I wrong?
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            • #21
              Handing over Iraq to the Turks??

              I think that might win the prize for "Most Ridiculous Suggestion Ever"
              THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
              AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
              AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
              DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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              • #22
                Why?
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                • #23
                  Throw in Syria and the Turks might be interested.
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                  • #24
                    Though I would be willing to 'throw in Syria', the US doesn't control it.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Geronimo


                      the same thing they did when saddam attacked iran?
                      Geronimo, what did they do when Saddam attacked Iran?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Lancer
                        Though I would be willing to 'throw in Syria', the US doesn't control it.
                        The Turks might have the capability to rectify that.
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                        • #27
                          What does nuke have to do with ww3?

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                          • #28
                            We're mentally stuck in the cold war.
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                            • #29
                              Honestly, why should some good heating of some Iran nuclear plant spark WW3? Absolutely nonsensical!

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                              • #30
                                Iran is blowing up US troops Etchy. That's what the thread is about.
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