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    Declassified report-WMD Found in Iraq

    Make what you will of it...

    Republicans | Fox News
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html
    Republicans




    (Yes I know...it's fox news...check the PDF link in the middle of the article)


    Congressman Weldon said on The Savage Nation that more info would be coming out in the next few days that he had been briefed on in classified briefings.

    Interesting...
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  • #2
    The most relevant part of the article (IMO):

    Offering the official administration response to FOX News, a senior Defense Department official pointed out that the chemical weapons were not in useable conditions.

    "This does not reflect a capacity that was built up after 1991," the official said, adding the munitions "are not the WMDs this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had, and not the WMDs for which this country went to war."


    So, unusable pre 1991 chemical weapons, probably stuff the US gave to Iraq. They still haven't found post 1991 chemical weapons or a program to create them.
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    • #3
      Very true indeed. Nonetheless, they are a stark violation of UN resolutions.
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      • #4
        Well not allowing inspectors was also in violation of UN resolutions. The US didn't go in because of violation of UN resolutions, no matter what they want to tell countries now.
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        • #5
          To quote a joke from a couple of years ago...

          Q: How does the US know Iraq has WMD?
          A: We still have the receipts.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by PLATO
            Very true indeed. Nonetheless, they are a stark violation of UN resolutions.
            A chemical weapon that can't be used is not a chemical weapon. A sword that's beat into a plow is not a sword.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              Well not allowing inspectors was also in violation of UN resolutions. The US didn't go in because of violation of UN resolutions, no matter what they want to tell countries now.
              Well...That's what we told everybody then as well. Quote from Bush's "ultimatum" speech.

              Tuesday March 18, 2003


              My fellow citizens, events in Iraq have now reached the final days of decision. For more than a decade, the United States and other nations have pursued patient and honorable efforts to disarm the Iraqi regime without war. That regime pledged to reveal and destroy all its weapons of mass destruction as a condition for ending the Persian Gulf War in 1991
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                A chemical weapon that can't be used is not a chemical weapon. A sword that's beat into a plow is not a sword.
                An irrelevant remark is not is not relevant...

                The chemicals are just as dangerous in the hands of terrorist and insurgents as the delivery method
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                • #9
                  Right in time for elections I see...


                  Last edited by Darius871; June 22, 2006, 01:09.
                  Unbelievable!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
                    To quote a joke from a couple of years ago...

                    Q: How does the US know Iraq has WMD?
                    A: We still have the receipts.


                    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Darius871
                      Right in time for elections I see...
                      Wasn't April when Carl Rove was "reassigned" to other duties? hmmmm.....
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PLATO


                        An irrelevant remark is not is not relevant...

                        The chemicals are just as dangerous in the hands of terrorist and insurgents as the delivery method
                        Not necessarily. The relevant toxins have a shelf life, especially when they're not being well taken care of.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                          Not necessarily. The relevant toxins have a shelf life, especially when they're not being well taken care of.
                          According to the report, you could be right. However, you could also be incorrect. The document refers to the chemicals as "potentially lethel" I believe.
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                          • #14
                            Actually, the report says exactly what I said: that chemical agents degrade over time, and that their effectiveness after being stored for 12 years in some ****ty Iraqi facility underground is questionable. Not certainly finished, but questionable.

                            The purity of the agent inside the munitions depends on many factors, including the manufacturing process, potential additives, and environmental storage conditions. While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal


                            I have no doubt that if you cracked the seal and took a big whiff you would stand a good chance of keeling over dead. That's a long way from saying that the chemicals remain just as dangerous now as they were back in 1991.
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                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
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                            • #15
                              This is exactly the type of thing I think we all knew that would be found: rusted, decaying remnants of a once-proud chemical weapons program; a silly reason to go to war.

                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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                              Killing it is the new killing it
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