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    UK newspaper The Mail on Sunday followed the manufacturing of iPods at two …


    If you are fortunate enough to live in the UK, you may have seen an interesting piece in the Mail on Sunday this past weekend. The Mail sent some reporters to Longhua, China (twenty minutes from Hong Kong) and Suzhou, which borders Shanghai to visit two factories which bring forth the iPods, Nanos, and Shuffles that are "designed in California" and tremendously popular around the world. There they found conditions that to our Western ears sound positively Dickensian.

    "We have to work too hard and I am always tired. It's like being in the army. They make us stand still for hours. If we move, we are punished by being made to stand still for longer…We have to work overtime if we are told to and can only go back to the dormitories when our boss gives us permission…If they ask for overtime we must do it. After working 15 hours until 11:30pm, we feel so tired."

    The first facility, run by Taiwanese company Foxconn, is described as "the original and largest plant to be built in mainland China. It's a sprawling place where 200,000 people work and sleep." Many are already questioning this figure as being an error of some sort, as that would basically be a city the size of Tallahassee, Florida. It is worth noting, however, that the Foxconn facility produces electronics equipment for a variety of IT companies besides Apple, and the Longhua facility holds one-fifth of their "million-strong workforce." iPod Nanos are produced in a five-story factory at the facility, stationed with police officers who check everyone who enters and leaves to "thwart rivals intent on industrial espionage." For 15 hour workdays, pay at this facility is approximately US$50 per month.
    The second facility visited benefited from its proximity to Shanghai. Dormitories are outside the plant, work is only 12 hours of the day, and pay is almost US$100 per month (the security guards who watch over the workers earn up to US$150), of which up to half is paid back to the company for housing and food. The remainder is typically sent home to families, many of which are struggling to bring in that kind of money farming.

    Given that the iPod nano components cost approximately US$75 but have around 400 parts, cheap labor becomes very important at keeping the price competitive. One guard at one of the facilities visited understood this:

    "Payment is lower because the boss wants to reduce our costs," he says. "Prices need to be competitive to get orders from abroad."

    What results is an unpleasant catch-22. Overseas companies need to keep their costs down so first-world consumers can afford their products and they can stay in business. In places like China, the low wages and shocking conditions present an opportunity not unlike what came of the Industrial Revolution.

    James Kynge, author of China Shakes The World, argues that despite Westerners' perceptions about working conditions in factories, the wages are a godsent that are transforming rural China. "The money sent back to farming families from the workers now exceeds the amount made from agriculture," he says.

    Further, China has no unions, which allows subcontractors like Foxconn to keep wages artificially low.

    Workers will be lucky if they make two percent of the profit from an iPod. Foxconn will make less than ten percent. Far more money is spent by Apple on marketing the product than making it.

    That's not to say something can't or shouldn't be done. A recent BusinessWeek article profiles a Hewlett-Packard manager whose job is specifically to fight for "Supply Chain Social & Environmental Responsibility." Bonny Nixon-Gardiner not only travels to facilities like the Foxconn Longhua plant to ensure the working conditions are decent, but she has also worked with other companies such as Dell, IBM, and Intel to create the Electronic Industry Code of Conduct, setting out basic labor and environmental standards for IT contractors.

    It's not an easy job. Grover Thurman of Foxconn describes working with Nixon-Gardiner as "like being kissed and slapped at the same time. It can make you psychotic—but it needs to be done."

    We can only hope that Apple, who puts at least a little of that marketing budget into trying to promote themselves as a socially responsible company, can get on board with the movement towards technology manufacturing ethics.

    Of course, Apple isn't alone in its use of labor in Asia, including that which has been profiled here. We hope that all such companies keep the improvement of workers' conditions at the top of their "must have" feature list for the future.
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  • #2
    Following the news that some black MacBooks are having their paint chip off, the white MacBooks are turning yellow on the palmrests: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2802





    AND

    I am very sick of this bug(?) on my iPod video. About 75% of the time, when I pick a song at random out of a list (not within 3-4 songs of the currently playing song, as those are buffered), the iPod will display the song name/album, load the album art, pause for a few seconds...then skip immediately to the next song in the playlist and start playing (or return to the main menu if it's at the end of a playlist). SO annoying...

    AND

    Very frequently the thing will ignore my command to turn it off. I think this happens when it's loading upcoming songs int othe buffer, because if I wait ~5-6 seconds then try to turn it off, it usually works. Sometimes it will NEVER turn off if I just hold down the play/pause button. But if I press the button (to toggle play/pause), THEN hold it down...it will work. This is a simple device, WTF is this so complicate for Apple?
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    • #3
      As far as the average factory goes are conditions in Korea better than those in Chinese plants?
      meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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      • #4
        That's the kind of thing you'd expect from a no-name laptop. The macbooks look crappy. And what's the deal with that PC jr keyboard?
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        • #5
          For 15 hour workdays, pay at this facility is approximately US$50 per month.
          The exact reason why free trade should never have been allowed with China. They should be made to follow western labor laws or they should never have been allowed to sell one plastic happy meal toy. I honestly believe this.

          They should have been tarrifed to such an extant that they remained in their 1970's communist economic deep freeze. No fair treatment = no trade, period.
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          • #6
            Because of course that would have solved anything. I mean, they were making so much progress before we normalized relations with them!

            Opening up China is one of Nixon's greatest accomplishments.

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            • #7
              That $50/month wage seems rather low. AFAIK, the wages in Shenzen normally are more in the $80 - $100/month range for factory work.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #8
                I'm not really interested in helping out the Chinese at least not until they institute sane and safe working conditions. We (meaning the west and Japan) have the ultimate carrot in the form of our markets. If they want the carrot then they must follow our rules in reguard to what we consider reasonable working conditions and if they want market access then they jump through what ever hoops we tell them to. End of story.
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                • #9
                  Don't worry. With wages the way they going in the US, I doubt those markets for China will exist much longer.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Asher
                    Following the news that some black MacBooks are having their paint chip off, the white MacBooks are turning yellow on the palmrests: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2802





                    AND

                    I am very sick of this bug(?) on my iPod video. About 75% of the time, when I pick a song at random out of a list (not within 3-4 songs of the currently playing song, as those are buffered), the iPod will display the song name/album, load the album art, pause for a few seconds...then skip immediately to the next song in the playlist and start playing (or return to the main menu if it's at the end of a playlist). SO annoying...

                    AND

                    Very frequently the thing will ignore my command to turn it off. I think this happens when it's loading upcoming songs int othe buffer, because if I wait ~5-6 seconds then try to turn it off, it usually works. Sometimes it will NEVER turn off if I just hold down the play/pause button. But if I press the button (to toggle play/pause), THEN hold it down...it will work. This is a simple device, WTF is this so complicate for Apple?
                    Your own article even says the "flaking" was reported by ONE person, and was an isolated case.

                    In any case, this article is ridiculous - the only reason it even got published is because of the attention they can grab by mentioning "iPod".

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DaShi
                      Don't worry. With wages the way they going in the US, I doubt those markets for China will exist much longer.
                      Its not like the markets are huge. How many philosophy professors can there be?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Oerdin
                        I'm not really interested in helping out the Chinese at least not until they institute sane and safe working conditions. We (meaning the west and Japan) have the ultimate carrot in the form of our markets. If they want the carrot then they must follow our rules in reguard to what we consider reasonable working conditions and if they want market access then they jump through what ever hoops we tell them to. End of story.
                        And of course denying them any money at all is sure to improve their economic condition sufficiently that they can afford those controls... no it's not, that's retarded.

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                        • #13
                          I honestly believe this.
                          I'm sorry, Oerdin. Because that's crazy, on multiple levels.

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                          • #14
                            Anyway, what you're proposing is pretty evil, given how much harm it would cause to tens of millions of people.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Oerdin
                              I'm not really interested in helping out the Chinese at least not until they institute sane and safe working conditions. We (meaning the west and Japan) have the ultimate carrot in the form of our markets. If they want the carrot then they must follow our rules in reguard to what we consider reasonable working conditions and if they want market access then they jump through what ever hoops we tell them to. End of story.
                              The West wants want China can offer just as much as China wants to sell it. Both sides have the carrots.
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