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  • #46
    Originally posted by Kuciwalker
    Because other people, with guns, follow the orders of that individual.
    The thing that you seem to be unaware of is that people are ruled because they want to be ruled, because they don't want to think for themselves. It takes a hell of a lot to get people to think for themselves. When they do the guns that the rulers have can't insure them rule any longer.
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    • #47
      The thing that you seem to be unaware of is that people are ruled because they want to be ruled, because they don't want to think for themselves.


      Obviously most governments aren't sustained through the use of force, but rather a healthy dose of guns and ideology/religion/nationalism. That doesn't mean that rule through force is impossible or even an inexplicable circumstance.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Blaupanzer
        On point.
        Despite considerable ignorance of this in the press, economic disruptions are quite common due to the complex interrelationships of the international economy (strikes, boycotts, favored customer deliveries, misfit or too poor quality parts, transportation issues, etc.).

        Revolts are also common and going on in many parts of the world in many forms right now.

        However, full scale overthrows of one class by another are fairly rare. The scale of violence and destruction usually required for the so-called "hopeless" poor to rise up and risk it all trying to overthrow the hired guns of the rich just doesn't happen that often. The poor slide along, the rich pull back before overdoing it usually. Accepting/provoking this scale of risk is not inevitable.
        I have to agree. I believe that a true revolution from the bottom of society is impossible in these days of infra red, night vision, stealth copters, spaced based spying, and listening devices.
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        • #49
          Kuci,

          Religion and nationalism are ideologies in themselves.

          You're spot on with once the system is in place the only way out is if enough go at once.

          The thing that you seem to be unaware of is that people are ruled because they want to be ruled, because they don't want to think for themselves.
          Thats because usually it isn't in their individual self interest to do otherwise.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
            The thing that you seem to be unaware of is that people are ruled because they want to be ruled, because they don't want to think for themselves.


            Obviously most governments aren't sustained through the use of force, but rather a healthy dose of guns and ideology/religion/nationalism. That doesn't mean that rule through force is impossible or even an inexplicable circumstance.
            If you can't control their minds than they will attach to revolutionary systems. Once they do you can't control them with force. It's just too much of an undertaking. Governments really have to relly on people.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Flip McWho
              Thats because usually it isn't in their individual self interest to do otherwise.
              Only to the point that a child understands that it's better to accept the way of thinking of those in power over him.
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