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I didn't think roosters fertilized in vitro. 
(oh why do I get dragged into these discussions?
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(oh why do I get dragged into these discussions?
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In theory, the final mutation that created the chicken (in reality we know nothing is quite that well divided, but for the sake of argument) would have had to occur in a gamete and transmitted to the progeny, this means that the egg came first. Puzzle solved...Speaking of Erith:
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The rooster still had to fertilize it.
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"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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A mutant gamete that differed from the original rooster precursor you mean
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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came as in ejaculating. get it? haha funny funny."I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
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And it's time to break this wierd-ass chain!Originally posted by SlowwHand
This is sooo easy. Naturally, the chicken.He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
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Finally! Someone gets it! I hate explaining jokes.Originally posted by MRT144
came as in ejaculating. get it? haha funny funny.
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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OMG, what is that phallic symbol doing in the previous post??
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BTW: CNN.com has weighed in on this topic:
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Perhaps the chicken/egg precursor was fine but the rooster's "contribution" was what was mutated.Originally posted by Provost Harrison
A mutant gamete that differed from the original rooster precursor you mean
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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The periodicity of egg searches is almost perfect
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I don't recall the name of the dance.Originally posted by Zkribbler
OMG, what is that phallic symbol doing in the previous post??
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
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Why isn't this is a poll, Gramps? Forget what you were doing?
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I forgot ok, when I was younger..I..I..I..I gotta go use the headOriginally posted by SlowwHand
Why isn't this is a poll, Gramps? Forget what you were doing?
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This thread needs this post
Is this the definition (CNN) of a slow news day?
It's a question that has baffled scientists, academics and pub bores through the ages: What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Now a team made up of a geneticist, philosopher and chicken farmer claim to have found an answer. It was the egg.
Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life.
Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg.
I'm ready to stand tall against this one.
It ignores epigenetics -- are we to believe that just any egg can become a chicken without some rather important environmental influence -- starting with the fact that somebody has to sit on it?
OK, even if epigenetics doesn't argue by itself for the chicken-first hypothesis, we still have the slight problem of how to define the species boundary between Gallus domesticus and its ancestor Gallus gallus. There certainly can't have been only a single egg that gave rise to the species -- that egg must have been part of a community of incipient chickens. What was the transformation rule between these? Was it the mere fact of egg-laying? Or was it...
Domestication! Clearly, it was domestication that made the chicken. But is domestication something that humans do to eggs? No! It's something they did to red jungle fowl (Gallus gallus), transforming them to chickens. The first chicken was therefore a domesticated red jungle fowl, which had the desirable property of laying eggs around humans and not running away. So it was an epigenetic phenomenon: humans made chickens, which laid chicken eggs!
Just to support all this, there is the suggestion that the domestication of red jungle fowl was really about making good cockfighters rather than tasty McNuggets. So maybe the first chicken was born a red jungle fowl until humans made it really, really MEAN!
I rest my case.
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