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  • #46
    X-Men 3 was very ordinary - not near the standard of the previous two films. With Bryan Singer working on Superman Returns (which should be excellent) I wasn't surprised.

    No wonder Hollywood keeps churning out bland blockbuster films when people actually think they rock.

    I suppose you think Uwe Boll is the next Kubrick...
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    • #47
      What was the name of the huge fat guy who was on the video game arcade?

      he was cool
      I need a foot massage

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      • #48
        Originally posted by OzzyKP


        And you wouldn't be offended to be called a child? It is a very weighted and insulting term. No matter who it is being called a child. Its sad, but its true.

        Just like how southern whites would call blacks "boy". Except "child" has more sting to it. You knew damn well what you were saying so don't play innocent now. Maybe I should call Imran a "raghead" and see if he "overreacts".

        Calling someone a child is universally a grave insult, and especially so in my case. You were intentionally being cruel and now you continue to mock me because I was rightfully offended by your comment.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by OzzyKP


          And you wouldn't be offended to be called a child? It is a very weighted and insulting term. No matter who it is being called a child. Its sad, but its true.

          Just like how southern whites would call blacks "boy". Except "child" has more sting to it. You knew damn well what you were saying so don't play innocent now. Maybe I should call Imran a "raghead" and see if he "overreacts".

          Calling someone a child is universally a grave insult, and especially so in my case. You were intentionally being cruel and now you continue to mock me because I was rightfully offended by your comment.
          calm down child
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          • #50
            Originally posted by OzzyKP


            And you wouldn't be offended to be called a child? It is a very weighted and insulting term. No matter who it is being called a child. Its sad, but its true.

            Just like how southern whites would call blacks "boy". Except "child" has more sting to it. You knew damn well what you were saying so don't play innocent now. Maybe I should call Imran a "raghead" and see if he "overreacts".

            Calling someone a child is universally a grave insult, and especially so in my case. You were intentionally being cruel and now you continue to mock me because I was rightfully offended by your comment.
            Well why don't you cry about it?

            Besides, I'd think you of all people would consider childhood something to be proud of and cherished, not an insult.
            Unbelievable!

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            • #51
              Bryan Singer definitely knows when to leave a sinking ship.

              It is clear the film has been written to accommodate Halle Berry's demands for more screentime as Storm -- the X-Men movie universe now apparently revolves around this lackluster character. Additionally, it is quite apparent that the film has been written to pave the way for a future Wolverine spin-off film. Frankly, apart from one moment involving Iceman near the end of the film, I felt cheated and disappointed.

              Character development is shoved to the wayside in order that we see a whole lot of mutant cameos. Who cares? Kelsey Grammar is quite good as Beast, and is crucial to the main plot of the movie, but Ben Foster as Angel is quite unnecessary. I respect Ben Foster as an actor, but he has three lines all film and a subplot involving his father that is just ridiculous. The part his father plays in the story could easy be re-written to have the character as just another doctor, thereby removing Angel altogether and the expensive CG-effects required of the character. The money saved right there could have been used to hire a writer with some actual merit.

              Cyclops is one-dimensional. Magneto comes across as merely a lunatic and loses every ounce of the conflict he has shown in the two previous films and throughout the X-Men comics. Rogue gets turned into a whining, selfish little ****. And just what the hell happened to Nightcrawler?

              Grandiose displays of stupidity are attempted to be passed off as plot devices. Characters do not stay true to themselves. An array of unnecessary deaths are carried out in front of the audience, draining the film of every single drop of emotion it potentially could have had. The Jean Grey-Phoenix storyline is completely ridiculous and plays no real part in the film. It could have been scrapped altogether, and thereby would have left the franchise with a leg to stand on. Instead, the film robs the franchise of its former glory and ensures its tattered remains will never be resurrected.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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              • #52
                A housemate and I agreed last night that a far far better idea for the film would have been for the cure to be developed on Genosha from the mutant death camps.

                Then it would have tied in beautifully to Magneto's past, given a perfect reason for starting a human-mutant war, forced Rogue to have more screen time and may have even saved the Pheonix storyline by giving her a reason to flip to the dark side.
                Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
                  What was the name of the huge fat guy who was on the video game arcade?

                  he was cool
                  The Blob.

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                  • #54
                    It's been my experience that movies are usually not as bad as the whiny reviews.

                    I'm off to see Xmen 3 in about an hour and a half.

                    I think most peoples' problem with movies like this is that they have certain expectations going into the movie, for whatever reason. They've built up an idea of what the movie should be, and when the movie fails to live up to the ideal, they write some whiny review... or go on a website and give it a bad vote... like rottentomatoes or imdb. As if doing that is revenge for the movie failing to live up to their expectations.

                    As for me, I think Xmen 3 is going to be what it's going to be. No more, no less. I'm not going to see an Oscar caliber film. I'm going to see an action movie with lots of CG effects. Eye candy.

                    If I want character development and all that crap, I can go pick from any number of Oscar contending films starring the same kinds of people, directed by the usual directors.

                    That being said, I'm looking forward to this movie. And if Asher doesn't like it, it must be good.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Darius871


                      Well why don't you cry about it?

                      Besides, I'd think you of all people would consider childhood something to be proud of and cherished, not an insult.
                      Get in touch with your inner child!!
                      One thing you gotta ask yourself... where are you now? -- James Blunt lyrics

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Playful


                        touch your inner child!!
                        You might have just stumbled onto the cure for pedophilia!
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #57
                          well, the movie was great!

                          I thought it was better than the first, on par with the second.

                          I honestly don't understand the complaints about lack of character development. Jean Grey's struggle... and quite a bit about the philosophical differences between Xavier and Magneto, especially when it came to Jean... Beast, Wolverine, even Storm (though Halle Berry is not a good actress, but still, nice to look at)...



                          Originally posted by Asher
                          but Ben Foster as Angel is quite unnecessary
                          Spoiler:
                          Except for the whole saving his father bit... the guy who created the mutant "cure". His character was a symbol for the mutant struggle. But I guess the symbolism was lost on you.



                          All in all, this movie was a great conclusion to the Xmen story... though, it did leave some room for another movie... as Asher eluded to, probably a Wolverine spinoff.

                          Spoiler:
                          Maybe some people were just pissed off that some characters died. I don't know. But this movie was exactly in line with the story of the first two movies. It was better than the first movie, and the action was great. I don't see how anyone can give a poor review if they were a fan of the first two movies.


                          But hey, there are always going to be whiners. It's best to just ignore them, IMO.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #58
                            Saw it. It's good popcorny.

                            And I do mean that--it's decent, but not great. It's very pop-ish, fairly corny.

                            Sava: the inclusion for some of those characters was, yes, important to the story. But that's all they were--cardboard cut-out props for the story.

                            It's on par with the first, perhaps. Nowhere near as good as the second.
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                            • #59
                              A few big problems with this movie.

                              Why oh why would you get rid of some of the most interesting, exciting mutants (namely Mystique), and replace them with mostly nameless, bland, interchangable tattooed guys who all end up disintegrated anyway? I'm sure they were somewhat recognizable to those of you familiar with the comics, but to more casual fans like me--wtf? A porcupine guy, seriously? And what is worse, get rid of Mystique and make that whiny ***** Pyro into Magneto's second-in-command? Weak.

                              Introducing Juggernaut is fine and good, he was fun. And Beast was much better than I expected. But most of the other additions ended up subtracting from the momentum and emotional impact. Kitty Pryde is a cool character, but the love triangle? Really not necessary at all; I'd much rather have had more focus on Rogue's dilemma.

                              My initial concerns when seeing the first trailer were well-founded: a classic Hollywood case of Too Much.

                              That said, I did like that last shot of Magneto in the park, sitting at a chess board across from an empty chair, looking absolutely devastated. Nice symmetry with the first film. Not sure how I feel about the chess piece twitching, to be honest.

                              I understand there was another scene after the end credits? What was it, exactly? I didn't know there was another scene at the end.
                              Last edited by Guynemer; May 29, 2006, 01:11.
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                              • #60
                                Spoiler:
                                Xavier didn't die, apparently
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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