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I would trust Gore far more than the clueless hacks that are in power now. What, exactly, has Bush done right under pressure? 9/11? Katrina? To paraphrase an old Star Trek quote, "when the going gets tough, he crumbles."
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Lime roots and treachery!
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I think Gore would make a lousy president. But to be fair I think he would have intervened in afghanistan just as decisively as Bush did. It was absolutely politically inevitable that whoever was in the whitehouse 9/11/2001 would find themselves having to act against the Taliban.
Furthermore he probably either would not have acted against iraq or would have done so much later if (quite unlikely) a broad consensus among our allies existed to act against iraq.
Foreign policy wise I'm not sure any president would have been able to do more damage than Bush has.Comment
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The one thing I find fault with Bush over is staying in Iraq after Hussein was captured. Should have moved on.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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bush doesn't crumble. I wish he would. Instead he goes off on half arsed crusades consequences be damned.Originally posted by Cyclotron
I would trust Gore far more than the clueless hacks that are in power now. What, exactly, has Bush done right under pressure? 9/11? Katrina? To paraphrase an old Star Trek quote, "when the going gets tough, he crumbles."Comment
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you don't fault him for invading the place to begin with? It was a lot cheaper just leaving an apparent invasion force in kuwait and in the end that was all it took to start wringing concessions out of him. All we really needed was for weapons inspections to continue so Saddam couldn't make any wmds. in the end we got just exactly that but Bush invaded anyway.Originally posted by SlowwHand
The one thing I find fault with Bush over is staying in Iraq after Hussein was captured. Should have moved on.Last edited by Geronimo; May 24, 2006, 01:16.Comment
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Hell no. It was proper.
I find Clinton definitely at fault for letting 8 years go by fueling the situation.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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why not let it go? what difference did it make to us if saddam was still in power? it was a hell of a lot cheaper than removing him was going to be.Originally posted by SlowwHand
Hell no. It was proper.
I find Clinton definitely at fault for letting 8 years go by fueling the situation.Comment
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Removing the way we removed.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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I wasn't aware it was our national prerogative to overthrow every brutal dictator in the world. Well, thanks for clearing that up! We've got a sh*tload of work to do!Lime roots and treachery!
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9/11 may never have happened if Gore was in charge. Everyone knows that the Clinton WH placed a high priority on terrorism, and everyone knows that Bush basically did nothing until 9/11.Originally posted by Geronimo
I think Gore would make a lousy president. But to be fair I think he would have intervened in afghanistan just as decisively as Bush did. It was absolutely politically inevitable that whoever was in the whitehouse 9/11/2001 would find themselves having to act against the Taliban.
Jesus... the head terrorism guy was begging to be allowed to speak and no one took any notice of him.Only feebs vote.Comment
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He'd been killing Americans for quite awhile and the worst we ever did was lob a few missiles and bomb an pharamcuetical factory. I have little faith that anyone connected with the Clinton admin in anyway would have done something so aggressive.Originally posted by Geronimo
It was absolutely politically inevitable that whoever was in the whitehouse 9/11/2001 would find themselves having to act against the Taliban.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I'd consider voting for Gore if he brings the beard back. It gave him a cool Wil Riker (ST:TNG) look. We need more bearded Presidents.
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On 9/10/2001 Bush was far more concerned with spying on the Chinese than he was with terrorism. It seems ludicrous to suggest that Bush acted as he did out of some greater commitment to fighting terrorism than clinton had shown. The difference in their responses is essentially precisely proportional to the difference in the terracts that provoked them.Originally posted by DinoDoc
He'd been killing Americans for quite awhile and the worst we ever did was lob a few missiles and bomb an pharamcuetical factory. I have little faith that anyone connected with the Clinton admin in anyway would have done something so aggressive.Comment
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Before 9-11 there wouldn't have been enough support to do more than what Clinton did.Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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Considering that the AUMF passed 98-0 in the Senate and that Gore voted for the First Gulf War, the idea that Gore wouldn't have invaded Afghanistan is beyond absurd."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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