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  • #76
    The man that claims to know for a fact that the 4th Amendment says NOTHING about "probable cause" has been confirmed by the Senate as the new head of the CIA:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060527/ap_on_go_co/cia_chief
    Senate confirms Hayden as CIA director

    By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 21 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - Gen. Michael Hayden won confirmation to be the 20th
    CIA director Friday in a lopsided Senate vote, placing a career Air Force officer in charge of the civilian spy agency that is grappling with intelligence reform at home as well as al-Qaida and other international threats.

    The Senate approved Hayden in under three weeks by a vote of 78-15. He is expected to be sworn in next week.

    Breaking with the White House, Senate Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter voted against the four-star general. The Pennsylvania Republican said he was protesting the administration's failure to inform Congress of intelligence operations, particularly its warrantless surveillance program.

    "I have no quarrel with General Hayden," Specter said on the Senate floor.

    On the final day before a weeklong Memorial Day break, the Senate rushed through a string of nominations, including former Idaho Gov. Dirk Kempthorne as interior secretary, R. David Paulison as the new chief of the embattled
    Federal Emergency Management Agency and former U.S. Trade Representative Rob Portman (news, bio, voting record) as director of the White House Office of Management and Budget.

    President Bush called Hayden a patriot and dedicated public servant whose experience makes him the right choice to head the CIA at a critical time.

    "Winning the war on terror requires that America have the best intelligence possible, and his strong leadership will ensure that we do," Bush said of Hayden in a written statement.

    For just over a year, Hayden served as the top deputy to National Intelligence Director John Negroponte. He was National Security Agency director for the six years before that, beginning in 1999.

    Through that role, Hayden became a key figure in the debate about Bush's post-9/11 directive ordering the NSA to monitor — without court approval — the calls and e-mails of Americans when one party is overseas and terrorism is suspected. Hayden's defenders say he was relying on the advice of top government lawyers.

    Sen. Russ Feingold (news, bio, voting record), D-Wis., who voted against Hayden, praised his ability to distill complicated issues into clear briefings for policymakers. But Feingold said he has a problem with the Bush administration's surveillance, which he considers illegal.

    "My concerns were about this administration's attitude about the law, which Gen. Hayden adopted," Feingold said in an interview. "That is unacceptable to me."

    On Friday, Vice President
    Dick Cheney said at the Naval Academy's commencement that the program is "fully consistent with the constitutional responsibilities and the legal authorities of the president." He called the program "essential."

    Hayden, 61, is the first military officer to run the CIA in 25 years, when retired Adm. Stansfield Turner was in charge. Some lawmakers questioned whether now is the right time for a uniformed officer to head the CIA, as the
    Pentagon assumes an increasingly dominant role in intelligence collection and analysis.

    At his confirmation hearing, Hayden sought to assure lawmakers he would be independent from his military superiors, but he said he would consider how his uniform affects his relationship with CIA personnel. If it were to get in the way, he said, "I'll make the right decision."

    The administration had to fill the CIA position after the sudden resignation on May 5 of Director Porter Goss, who had disputes with Negroponte and Hayden over the agency's direction.

    Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, R-Kan., considers Hayden "eminently qualified." He said most of his committee's members are not too concerned about Hayden or his relationship to the NSA program.

    "He is probably recognized by Congress as the best briefer and the best person who has ever come to a hearing on intelligence," Roberts said.

    Among other confirmations:

    _Paulison has served as acting FEMA director since September, taking over the beleaguered agency two weeks after Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast. The way was cleared for his confirmation after Sen. Jim Bunning (news, bio, voting record), R-Ky., ended his stall on the nomination because of a dispute over the agency's flood insurance program.

    _Kempthorne's confirmation overcame objections from a small number of Democrats. The two-term Idaho governor and former Republican U.S. senator won approval on a voice vote after eight Democratic senators registered their opposition in an earlier test vote.

    _Portman, the U.S. trade representative and a former GOP congressman from Cincinnati, will succeed White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten as director of the White House Office of Management and Budget. He was confirmed without opposition.

    _Susan Schwab's nomination to replace Portman as the president's top trade negotiator ran into trouble. Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., said he bar a vote until Schwab — now a deputy trade representative — explained how the administration planned to get China to remove barriers that limit the ability of U.S. and other foreign financial service firms to do business in China.

    _White House aide Brett Kavanaugh, after a three-year wait, was confirmed on a 57-36 vote as a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, which has often served as a stepping stone to the Supreme Court.

    _Dale Klein, Gregory Jaczko and Peter Lyons were confirmed as members of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Bush plans to appoint Klein chairman of the commission.
    Raise your hand if you saw this coming...
    The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

    The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Vesayen
      Legally? It was legal in Germany.


      Hardly a defense.

      I never said what the CIA did was morally acceptable,


      Oh that was very much what you were saying when you were complaining of our media actually doing its job for once and exposing the illegal operation the government has been engaged in.

      I said it may have been for the well being of our country


      Yes, and rounding up and slaughtering millions of Jews was for the well-being of Germany. NOT A DEFENSE YOU MORALLY BANKRUPT EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING!
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Spiffor

        Everybody knows the US is a bunch of terrorists that has territory for its nefarious scheme, and that hass been made possible only because of complacency by legitimate powers (like France), and appeasement by others (Britain).
        Best troll ever
        So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
        Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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        • #79
          Are the torture prisons legal in the areas where they are located? If yes, your only option is to elect better politicians next time. If no, impeachment, anyone?
          So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
          Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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          • #80
            torture is against customary international law, and is thus illegal everywhere, no matter domestic law says.
            "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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            • #81
              Since when does the US accept and follow customary international law? What happened to the the international war crime tribunals?
              So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
              Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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              • #82
                im sorry, what does that have to do with the legality of torture?
                "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                • #83
                  Anything that is not prosecuted is legal.
                  So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                  Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                  • #84
                    uh huh.
                    "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                    • #85
                      Not that far-fetched; the Bush Administration is pushing that unitary executive malarky, basically saying that if the President does it (or authorizes it) then it's legal... Congress, the USSC and the US Constitution be damned.
                      The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                      The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui




                        Though some think that American values are about not getting caught rather than not doing the human rights violation in the first place .
                        I always wondered if Vesayen had any values at all in the first place.
                        Blah

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                        • #87
                          haha poor Ves
                          In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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