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You're also making the mistake of assuming that winning the ESC means the winning song is of quality, or that any songs taking part have any sort of quality whatsoever. 
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Of course you don't win only with bloc voting. You have to have quality song. I don't see why it's permissible for Winston that Ireland should win three times in a row, but nooooo, Turkey isn't allowed even to be granted points by north Europeans
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I think someone just has an axe to grind, and I'm not talking about Lordi.
The voting phenomenon in the ESC is quite fascinating, in any case.Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all!Comment
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TeddyLegion,
You asked for proof, and I gave it, on a platter.
Just open you eyes and look at the numbers I posted.
They're far more telling than e.g. Denmark sometimes getting 3 points from Norway, other times nothing, yet other times a couple from Sweden.
Some people see only what they want to see, and sadly, it appears you don't want to see the monumental pattern involving Turkey and the 4 countries I listed.Comment
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I think they should dedicate a branch of the game theory to the ESC.Comment
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I agree with Winston, this is an outrage.
I shalle write a letter to the relevant authorities in France to denounce this horror
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What, France was in the final too? I didn't notice.Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all!Comment
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I made no mention of it being an outrage. I merely brought it up in the context of "political" voting.
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22th rank out of 24Originally posted by Kassiopeia
What, France was in the final too? I didn't notice.
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The real outrage here is that France, along with Germany, UK and Spain, is guaranteed a place in the final every single year, no matter how close they will get to the ultimate stage of major suckage.
This time around, those 4 managed to place 22nd, 15th, 19th and 21st respectively. Clearly, they must be included in the contest at all costs!
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And for how long has there been popular voting?Originally posted by Kassiopeia
And how long has Turkey been in the ESC? Edit: Looks like for at least 23 years. Hm.Last edited by Colonâ„¢; May 21, 2006, 11:52.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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"He who pays decides the music" as we say in Austria. IIRC, those countries are also the ones that contribute most and, o course, have most possible spectators. So it's only fair to have them automatically classify, no matter how much they suck.Originally posted by Winston
This time around, those 4 managed to place 22nd, 15th, 19th and 21st respectively. Clearly, they must be included in the contest at all costs!
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Besides, we're guaranteed to lose anyway. Political voting favours small countries and Turkey."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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You are guaranteed to lose because you are horrible.In da butt.
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Excellent point! Since 1995 or so, I believe. After all, this didn't really become significant until popular voting was introduced. This is a mass psychological phenomenon.Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
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