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  • 81 killed in Sao Paulo insurrection

    Reminds me of City of God, except that City of God was set in Rio rather than Sao Paulo.

    A real urban war. Gangs using machine guns and grenades against the police. I'm very surprised that the governor of the state hasn't accepted federal troops.

    Brazil Companies Send Staff Home Early Amid Attacks (Update9)

    May 15 (Bloomberg) -- Banks, schools and shopping centers shut early in Sao Paulo, buses curtailed service and callers overwhelmed the mobile phone network as a third day of gang violence spread in Latin America's biggest city.

    At least 81 people have died since the attacks on police headquarters and cars began over the weekend in Brazil's financial center, according to Sao Paulo state. Rush-hour traffic clogged main thoroughfares as commuters grew afraid of a new wave of shootings. The federal government offered to send in troops to help restore order.

    ``I have never seen violence of this intensity in Sao Paulo before,'' said Claudio Vaz, president of Sao Paulo state's Council of Industries. Metropolitan Sao Paulo has almost 20 million residents and the surrounding state has a population of 40 million, according to census data.

    The 180 attacks were reprisals for the transfer of more than 700 inmates to other prisons in a bid to break up gangs inside the jails, and marked the worst violence in the city's history. State authorities are also dealing with ongoing uprisings at 45 prisons, in which 180 hostages were being held, after quelling riots at 25 facilities, the state's Web site said.

    Commerce Shuts

    Seven bus companies, accounting for a third of the city's fleet, halted service in the area after attacks destroyed 43 of their combined 4,800 buses. At least 13 banks also were targeted, some shot at and some burned, Folha de Sao Paulo reported on its online edition.

    Most commerce shut down in the southern part of the city on security concerns, according to the city's press office.

    Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Brazil's state-controlled oil company, canceled a meeting with investors to discuss first-quarter earnings scheduled for tomorrow in Sao Paulo.

    Eletropaulo Metropolitana SA sent headquarters staff home at 4 p.m. (3 p.m. New York time) and ordered repair crews to avoid high-crime areas tonight and not provide service if threatened.

    Pontificia Universidade Catolica, a Catholic university in Sao Paulo, canceled its classes today. Sao Paulo's association of shopping centers said 10 of the city's biggest shopping centers closed early. Helicopters spotted large groups of workers walking home because of a lack of transport, Globo News reported.

    Mobile Phones

    Mobile phone service in Sao Paulo, from companies such as America Movil SA and Tim Participacoes SA, was patchy as systems were overloaded by calls.

    Brazil's stock index dropped 2.3 percent and bonds and the currency tumbled.

    ``It's a very delicate and worrying situation, but it's still early to imagine a state of general calamity that affects the country's financial system,'' Rossano Maranhao, chief executive officer of Brasilia-based Banco do Brasil SA, Latin America's largest bank, told reporters at the company's Sao Paulo headquarters.

    Maranhao said police foiled attempts to attack some of the bank's branches in the east and south parts of town.

    ``The situation we're living in is widespread and not limited to banks, and we're taking measures to increase security,'' Maranhao said.

    On Sao Paulo's Paulista Avenue, one of the city's busiest streets, sections in front of police buildings were closed to traffic, in a bid to prevent more attacks.

    `Too Scared'

    ``My daughter isn't going to go to school tonight because she's too scared,'' said Mara Lucia de Carvalho, 34, in interview on Paulista Avenue.

    Mobile telephone providers in Sao Paulo met with state authorities to consider ways to stop communications in the state's penitentiaries that is enabling prisoners to coordinate attacks across the city.

    ``We understand the gravity of the situation,'' said Tim Participacoes SA, a unit of Telecom Italia Mobile SpA, in an e-mailed statetement to the press. ``We are in contact with other mobile-phone operators and with the Brazilian authorities to take the appropriate measures.''

    Smuggled cellular phones have increased organized crime leaders' ability to plan attacks and criminal actions from prisons, Colonel Luiz Carlos dos Santos, head of the Military Police Officers Association, said in a telephone interview from Sao Paulo.

    Troops

    The federal government is prepared to deploy 4,000 national guardsmen to Sao Paulo, as well as army troops, Justice Minister Marcio Thomaz Bastos told reporters in Brasilia after an emergency meeting with President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.

    The state government refused the offer from Lula, according to Globo News.

    ``We trust the forces of Sao Paulo are capable of controlling the situation, Bastos said. ``The federal government wants to help and is going to help.''

    The death toll at 3:47 p.m. New York time stood at 81, the state said. The dead include 43 police officers and four civilians along with 38 people identified gang members.

    Two of the 21 police officers killed May 12 were buried in the Agua Rasa cemetery in the east part of Sao Paulo, where about 200 people marched silently through the cemetery on May 13. Ten fire trucks and police forces guarded the cemetery, to prevent gang members from targeting family members.

    `Trapped'

    ``The concern is that the bandits attack the cemetery and we get trapped here, with our families and the dead,'' said Sylvia, 46, who attended the service for one of the fallen police officers and declined to give her surname. ``We all feel defenseless.''

    Sao Paulo Mayor Gilberto Kassab disbursed 7 million reais ($3.2 million) on May 12 for metropolitan police supplies, including new telecommunications equipment. Kassab hired another 120 officers this month and another 500 will be hired by year-end, boosting the payroll to 6,500.

    Gangs have attacked police buildings since May 12 with machine guns and grenades, according Folha de S. Paulo, which for two days has published a supplement called ``Urban War.''

    At the same time, riots broke out in 70 prisons in the country, most in Sao Paulo state and continue at 45 facilities, the state said.

    The association of Sao Paulo city bus companies demanded the government send police officers to companies to protect property and escort buses.

    ``The authorities need to ensure minimal conditions to protect users and providers of public transport, who are now in state of panic,'' the association said in a statement.

    To contact the reporter on this story:
    Andrew J. Barden in Sao Paulo at barden@bloomberg.net.

    Last Updated: May 15, 2006 17:01 EDT
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    81 now?

    Has it reached an end, or is it going to continue?
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    • #3
      I saw this documentary, I think it was BBC docu about the situation. Man.. it's crazy... nothing compares in the western world to what they have there.. it's a freaking war and has been for quite a while.
      In da butt.
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      • #4
        The US has some mean streets, but the cops put a huge beatdown on anybody who attacks them. I'm amazed that this gang in Sao Paulo can get away with attacking the cops on such scale. Further, I'm amazed that the gang is so cavalier in destroying the community structure from which they benefit.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #5
          I don't know about this particular gang, but it's far worse than that. And it's not all street kdis either, the cops their aren't exactly nice. They also come to hunt and kill. Not arrest and tried.

          And there are several gangs. In the docu, they had posts with assault rifles adn stuff, goggles, everything. It was urban warfare. And it showed a cop attack, from chopper they came directly into the favella, and opened fire from multiple directions on this young fellow, gunning him down. They did not warn him, they came there to kill him. It was evident.

          And if you think the society is giving so much to some of these kids, then what is it that it is giving to them? No one is giving them anything. The society has betrayed them. But it's tough to say who to blame. They aren't angels either. They also kill cops when they enter the territory without warning or asking anything. It's open fire time.

          And if you'd see some of the action that was in that film, man, we wouldn't compare those streets to any other streets but those with war.
          In da butt.
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          • #6
            In an ironic twist...

            Crime rate drops in Sao Paulo
            Web posted at: 5/11/2006 4:20:55
            Source ::: REUTERS

            SAO PAULO, Brazil • The murder rate in the world's third-biggest metropolis – a caldron of vice and poverty – is dropping sharply and mirroring a trend witnessed in New York City in the 1990s.

            It has plunged 54 per cent in the last seven years in greater Sao Paulo to about 23 for every 100,000 residents and fell further in the first three months of this year, official data show.

            Sao Paulo is now slightly less deadly than Cleveland and a bit more dangerous than Philadelphia.

            Globally, crime researchers have linked drops in murder to everything from higher literacy rates to the legalization of abortion.

            In Sao Paulo, tougher policing appears to be the main factor making the city less deadly, along with the arrival of government services in once neglected slum neighborhoods.

            The number of solved homicide cases has tripled with more funds for police, putting killers, especially professional hitmen, behind bars and helping curtail a long tradition of vigilante justice in poor neighbourhoods.

            Sao Paulo state's prison population rose 69 per cent in the last seven years.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #7
              In a country where the police can wear emblems of swords and skulls and patrol the streets in armoured assault vehicles with loadspeakers blaring out "we have come to take your souls" while they extort and kill the populace, I don't know if it's really fair to distinguish between the police and the gangs.
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              • #8
                I'm surprised that Cleveland is that dangerous.
                "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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                • #9
                  Well, Sao Paulo is about 20 times bigger than Cleveland. Sao Paulo is 40 times bigger than DC, which has many more murders than Cleveland on a per capita basis. In reality, a third of DC has the lion's share of the murders, while another third of the city is as safe as anything in Europe.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    Yeah, but still, I pictured Cleveland as a dull city where nothing ever happens except Drew Carey. I definitiely didn't picture Cleveland as the kind of city where somehting as exciting as crimes could possibly occur.
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                    "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                    "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                    • #11
                      There's more in Brazil than Sao Paolo. In the official ranking of most dangerous cities, Brazil had top two.

                      Suck it up.
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                      • #12
                        In Brazil wealthy people drive crappy cars, because if you drive expensive cars you know what happens...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DanS
                          The US has some mean streets, but the cops put a huge beatdown on anybody who attacks them. I'm amazed that this gang in Sao Paulo can get away with attacking the cops on such scale. Further, I'm amazed that the gang is so cavalier in destroying the community structure from which they benefit.
                          You cant compare brazilian cops and brazilian gangs to normal cops and gangs, it is war, you could send brazilian cops to iraq, they are that ready for action and shooting.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Spiffor
                            Yeah, but still, I pictured Cleveland as a dull city where nothing ever happens except Drew Carey. I definitiely didn't picture Cleveland as the kind of city where somehting as exciting as crimes could possibly occur.
                            It's funny and obviously not true, but I had exactly the same thoughts myself...

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                            • #15
                              I bet there's a truce during the world cup.

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