Apogee.gr v3, your feedback please

[MarkG]

new corporate identity, new site....

http://apogee.gr/

[MarkG]

for comparison
v2 (2004)

http://apogee.gr/v2.php

v1 (2002)

http://apogee.gr/v1.php

[VetLegion]

It doesn't work from here.

[MarkG]

a bit more info?

[VetLegion]

The page was offline. It's online now. Very slow on my Duron 900 & Opera 9 combo, takes ages for menus to fade in/out. Also, whatever I click I get "loading..." and after it loads it doesn't show anything.

[MarkG]

Opera sucks
i'll see if i can make it opera-friendly....

[Zevico]

On an unrelated note, whatever happened to Apogee? I remember playing Triad when I was 8. Those were the days. I'm not sure what was better-Triad or Doom. No wait--Doom.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Zevico
On an unrelated note, whatever happened to Apogee? I remember playing Triad when I was 8. Those were the days. I'm not sure what was better-Triad or Doom. No wait--Doom.

they are called 3D Realms now http://3drealms.com/

[LDiCesare]

The French version sounds as if it's been transliterated directly from English...

Apogee est une société innovatrice du secteur Electronique, qui s`occupe avec le développement de software et offre des solutions efficaces pour les entreprises, qui veulent s`activer dans le secteur e-business. En utilisant au maximum la capacité de la plateforme Web, nous nous focalisons sur Intranet et Extranet perfectionnement et exploitation. Notre but primaire et de fournir nos clients avec des produits et services destinées à parer aux besoins de moyennes/grandes entreprises et organisations, basés dessus Technologies Internet en combinaison avec principaux de Gestion de documentation électronique et de Connaissance.

should be:
"Apogee est une société innovante du secteur Electronique, qui s'occupe de développement logiciel et offre des solutions efficaces pour les entreprises, qui veulent agir dans le secteur e-business. En utilisant au maximum la capacité de la plateforme Web, nous nous focalisons sur le perfectionnement et exploitation d'Intranet et Extranet . Notre but principal est de fournir à nos clients des produits et services destinés à parer aux besoins de moyennes/grandes entreprises et organisations, basés sur les Technologies Internet en combinaison avec les principes de Gestion de documentation électronique et de Connaissance."
I'm not sure of the meaning of principals even in English, though.
Avoid using such French as it won't get you any customer.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by MarkG
Opera sucks
i'll see if i can make it opera-friendly....

Well, from what I know, Opera is fairly standards-compliant. This is version 9 though, so it could be buggy. You should definitely make the site visible in Opera, few people use it, but it's important people who do

[Mercator]

Originally posted by LDiCesare
The French version sounds as if it's been transliterated directly from English...

My German is rubbish, but the intro text looks suspiciously similar to a Google translation of the English one too.

Avoid using such French as it won't get you any customer.

Quite. It's probably one of the worst mistakes you can make.

If the German, French and Italian are indeed mostly machine translated, drop them and stick with Greek and English.


But it works fine in Opera 8.54 as far as I can see, by the way. Except it would be nice if the design was more fluid, so you don't need a screen resolution of 1024x768. There are still people using lower screen resolutions (or sidebars, like me )

Also, the scrolling buttons on the right look like a 5 and a 6. I bet that should really be up and down arrows. I don't have the Webdings font. I think it's only a font that comes with MS Office or something.

And the code looks like a right mess. Can't you put the JavaScript and CSS in separate files?

[Tattila the Hun]

Originally posted by Zevico
On an unrelated note, whatever happened to Apogee? I remember playing Triad when I was 8. Those were the days. I'm not sure what was better-Triad or Doom. No wait--Doom.

Wolf3D!

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Mercator
But it works fine in Opera 8.54 as far as I can see, by the way. Except it would be nice if the design was more fluid, so you don't need a screen resolution of 1024x768.

we went that road 2 years ago and designed a site that worked on 800x600 but we now feel it's time to move on...

Also, the scrolling buttons on the right look like a 5 and a 6. I bet that should really be up and down arrows. I don't have the Webdings font. I think it's only a font that comes with MS Office or something.

it's the webdings font. mac people dont have it as well so i'll be changing them...

And the code looks like a right mess. Can't you put the JavaScript and CSS in separate files?

it's due to the cms system, everything (content, html, javascript, css) is in a database....

[Mercator]

Fair enough.

There are still a number of people using less than 1024x768, though, and generating everything from the database into a single file creates larger HTML pages and thus longer load times. I'm sure that even with a database it is possible to keep them separate and have a site-wide CSS file etc.

[MarkG]

everything is possible. you just have to code it