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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cyclotron


    Yes, and perhaps the US stored its nukes in the USSR for "safe keeping" during the cold war.
    Iraq actually did store its warplanes in Iran during the war for Kuwait IIRC. Iran never gave them back

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Vince278
      MY state taxes have not gone up and no programs I'm familiar with are affected.
      Where the heck do you live
      There's been:
      (1) No overcrowding of hospitals?
      (2) No overcrowding of schools?
      (3) Tuitions at public colleges haven't gone up decreasing the number of educated people to power the economy in your old age?
      (4) Freeways and roads haven't deteriorated?
      (5) Police and firefighters aren't short handed?
      Simply amazing!

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      • #18
        Come to think of it, my scholarships were cut repeatedly for budget reasons... but there are so much bigger things to dislike Bush for.
        "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
        -Joan Robinson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Zkribbler
          Where the heck do you live
          Apparently LaLaLand...
          A true ally stabs you in the front.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by VetLegion
            Iraq actually did store its warplanes in Iran during the war for Kuwait IIRC. Iran never gave them back
            Even more of a reason why they wouldn't store WMDs - they should have learned their lesson.
            Lime roots and treachery!
            "Eventually you're left with a bunch of unmemorable posters like Cyclotron, pretending that they actually know anything about who they're debating pointless crap with." - Drake Tungsten

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Wiglaf


              If it had not been proven impossible I would argue right now that Iraq has WMDs somewhere. Perhaps they are actually in Iran. I mean, he used them before. Aside from WMD, it's hard to think of anything you could be talking about. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!
              Niiiiiiiice.

              Let's ignore the fact that, say, the administration has continually stonewalled/lied/denied to the press anything but their side of the story in:

              -global warming
              -the political situation in Iraq divorced from WMD
              -gitmo
              -CIA black sites
              -Valerie Plame
              -Abu Ghraib
              -NSA wire tapping

              ...among other things.

              Don't let reality with its well-known liberal bias get in the way of truthiness.
              B♭3

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              • #22
                Hey, why didn't you mention the alien spacecrafts at area 54 ??? Are you a part of the coverup ????
                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                Steven Weinberg

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                • #23
                  Am I the only one who thought the OP was setting up a punchline?
                  Unbelievable!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Has the current presidential administration doomed our future?

                    Originally posted by Vesayen
                    this thought.

                    Has any major politician in American history in a position of power managed to mess up enormously, and continue to act without caring about the response of anyone, by essentially ignoring all criticism, or flat our lying in response?

                    Has ANYONE tried this before?
                    Truman: Korea
                    Kennedy: Bay of Pigs
                    Johnson: Vietnam
                    Nixon: Watergate
                    Ford: Inflation
                    Carter: The Economy
                    Clinton: Sex Harrassment and affairs
                    Bush: Post-invasion dismissal of the Iraqi Army

                    What's going on now is not new to US presidents.
                    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                    • #25
                      Ehrm, didn't you forgot Roosevelt and WWII ????
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

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                      • #26
                        Most consider that a US victory...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                          Most consider that a US victory...
                          Quite right, but there are also those who thinks that it was Roosevelt that lured US into WWII
                          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                          Steven Weinberg

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                          • #28
                            In 2050 when they write the history of why the U.S. collapsed, they will start with the vote fraud and coup d'etat in 2000 leading to the worst presidency in our history. Subsequent adminisitrations were unable to fix the problem, and eventually America collapsed under mounting debt.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #29
                              Christ, what a bunch of melodramatic whiners...
                              KH FOR OWNER!
                              ASHER FOR CEO!!
                              GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                              • #30
                                Che, Bush's "problems" are

                                1) massive recession after the Clinton boom, caused by the Clinton surplus;

                                2) an intelligence/FBI failure that allowed 9/11;

                                3) an intelligence failure about Iraqi WMD; and

                                4) dismissing the Iraqi Army/not using enough US troops in Iraq.

                                Of these, three were caused by Clinton or Clinton appointees. Only the fourth one is Bush's sole responsibility.

                                Bush is not going to go down as the worst president in History. That view is held only by the left who will never admit that Bush could do anything right or that Clinton could do anything wrong.
                                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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