Iran Threatens Israel if U.S. Attacks

[KrazyHorse]

The UN exists without a significant army under its command, and is perennially ignored by everybody, yet they are responsible for the decision not to drive to Baghdad. They are responsible for the anarchy in Somalia. They are responsible for Israel's decision not to attack Iraq.

[KrazyHorse]

The US has the world's most formidable armed forces. They are largely controlled by the ecisions of a single man or a small group of his advisors. They constituted the major force responsible for Iraq's defeat in the first Gulf War, but they bear no responsibility for anything. The UN forced the US not to carry on into Baghdad. The UN forced Israel not to retaliate.

[Arrian]

The Coalition would've collapsed if we'd gone for Baghdad in GWI. Bush I knew this and stopped short. The UN had little, if anything, to do with it.

What do Iraqi scuds have to do with Iran now, Sloww?

-Arrian

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

If one defines the act of diplomacy and abiding by the majority view of the coalition forces forces a natural extension of UN charter then I suppose it natural to assume the UN as a collective did urge restraint. What wrong with that?

You gots a problem with respecting other sovereignties views?

[Ecthy]

KH, the end of the cold war saw indeed an increased tendency toward more institutionalized policy even on behalf of the US. While the UN obviously had no means to force them not to go into Baghdad, the US might have been more or less strongly under the influence of some belief in international institutions.

That and the fact they saw no gain in bringing Saddam in at the time.

[Gatekeeper]

Hmm. Actually, the reason the U.S. and its allies didn't drive on Baghdad in 1991 was because neighboring nations didn't like the prospect of what a Saddam-less Iraq might become. I believe the government of Saudi Arabia was a major proponent of holding back.

On a side note, the U.N. mandate did simply declare that Iraq needed to be thrown out of Kuwait. Nowhere in there did it say anything about dethroning Saddam. The mandate, of course, was a consensus reached by all parties involved in the First Gulf War, which ties directly into the point I made in the opening paragraph.

And I don't feel one bity of sympathy of George Sr.'s son. He didn't have to go into Iraq.

Gatekeeper

[Ecthy]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Some are beyond help.

Most of the times you don't even try. You're a little child with the body and knowledge of an adult man. Spooky.

[SlowwHand]

Arrian, stfu. I acknowledged I mistyped. Is that your only input?

[Ecthy]

You not only mistyped, Slowwy, you also supported your position when you were double-checked.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Ecthy


Most of the times you don't even try. You're a little child with the body and knowledge of an adult man. Spooky.

No, I'm a man with enough wisdom to not bother fighting fights that can't be won.

Stubborn and stupid is a powerful combination. If somebody doesn't get it the first 3 times you explain something to them then they never will.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

'reality has a liberal bias'

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Wrong thread that was whcad one.

[Ecthy]

The more aggressive you fight in fights you have already won before they're started.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Arrian
Iraq =! Iran, Sloww. I know it's hard, but you gotta look at those maps carefully.

Iraq fired Scuds at Israel in Gulf War I. Not Iran.

-Arrian

Hey if Sloww can make the same mistake, why not Bush jnr?

They're both from Texas after all!

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Arrian, stfu. I acknowledged I mistyped. Is that your only input?

No, you didn't misstype - you know it, we sure as hell know it!!!

At least have the balls to admit your woeful ignorance on the subject! *Falls off chair laughing so hard!*